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Do you imagine the "Great Resignation" is a sign of building anger among the worker bees?
They're fed up enough to quit their jobs, maybe they're fed up enough to get off the couch and vote against the party in power. The party that promised increased wages and failed to deliver, the party that promised sick leave and family leave...and failed to deliver.

How bout that inflation? Prices and corporate profits are through the roof. Social Security recipients just got a whopping 5.9% COLA, the highest in decades!

Inflation stands at 6.2%.

But they also got huge increases in Medicare Premiums, which wiped out any help there might have been for inflation. That's gonna cause some anger among retired worker-bees
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Not the 10%, they will weather this storm with little more than grumbling about the price of steaks. Those in the bottom percentiles are struggling and may be angry enough to get off the couch and vote against whichever party is in power.

Ron DeSantis just gave ALL state employees an extra day off for Christmas and New Years!
A four-day weekend for each holiday! He's giving bonuses and raises to teachers and law enforcement too.

He wants to be your next president. And he's playing his cards right.

Interesting article on who could replace Biden for 2024.

“11 Democrats who could replace Joe Biden in 2024”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/13/politics/2024-democrats-replace-biden/index.html

Harris is rated number one. She’d probably lose big time if the election were held today as independents are really down on her. But by 2024, everything could have changed for the positive. My favorite didn’t make the list, Tammy Duckworth. I think whatever happens in next year’s midterms will have a direct effect on 2024. Whatever the results are, those results may enhance some of these candidates and hurt others.

This morning I watched the Democrats of the house and the rules committee talking about charging mark meadows. for not talking. The Dems, obviously, saw an opportunity to talk on TV and made full use of that by what had to be a seriously boring effort to be on TV and little else. They just don't get it! What they did had to have made more people DISinterested. I keep on being told, by my wife, that the Dems are going to have public meeting about 6/1 which most are suggesting might actually be of interest.

But, before that happens they seem to be determined to bore the hell out of just about everybody with just what they did this morning. I stopped watching after the second or third speaker. They were all just droning, on and on, about exactly the same things.

Its kinda interesting. The TV news folks, for instance, will actually put Democrats running for office when they are actually attacking a Republican. Doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. Apparently such candidates are so few, and far between, that they are of actual interest?

I had the feeling since August that the only one’s interested in the 1-6 hearings are Democrats. Having no numbers to back that up, I googled for polls on this subject. None are to be had since August. So, call my feeling a gut feeling. This poll by The Hill piqued my interest, the latest poll taken on 2 Aug 2021

“58 percent say Jan. 6 House committee is biased: poll”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565981-58-percent-say-jan-6-commission-is-biased-poll

I don’t think independents give a tinker’s darn about the hearings. They’re all involved in and worrying about inflation, rising prices and thinning to empty wallets. 1-6 is ancient history to them, it might have well taken place decades ago. It’s today that independents are worried about, focused on. But until I see some numbers, some new polls, this is nothing more than an individual observation, a gut feeling on my part. When polling firms stop polling about something, it means there’s not enough interest out there to conduct one. At least this is how I read it. I could be completely wrong, have been a few times. I will say these hearings won’t prevent the loss of the house.

This is of course consistent with your belief based on polling that when partisans say the other side is destroying the country, your conclusion is, it is simply partisan whining. It would appear, according to the results of the polling you presented, independents do as well.

So I guess your conclusion is, since polling suggests no one gives a flying frak, attempting a coup by a major political party is .... ok .... ancient history. Yes I am sure that is the way one ... an American should think about it. The perpetrators of a coup should be ... awarded the medal of freedom .... yes I am sure that is the correct response.

WHAT THE FRAK IS WRONG WITH AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!

They tried to overthrow the government and you want to ignore it.

What is your price for Democracy?

Overthrowing the government is nothing.

I am in the wrong frakking country ..... I thought this was America


Truly ... the Constitution has become toilet paper for some

Nationwide polls only show what Americans are thinking or feeling or believe or support or not. It’s quite simple. Whether their beliefs or feelings or thinking is different than yours, it’s no big deal. There’s been many times I felt different than what let’s say, a majority of Americans do or did. I just recognize that fact and move on.

I think the time for these hearings was shortly after the event happened. Most Americans have short memories. What is taking place today, i.e. inflation, thinning or flat wallets is much more important to them, particularly independents than any hearing on something that happened almost a year ago. What happened a year ago isn’t making it difficult to buy gas, food, clothes, housing, a car, toys for the kids for Christmas etc.

Today’s problems always replace yesterday’s problems for most of us. Yesterday’s problems are behind us; today’s problem is with us today and are causing us heartaches and heartburn today. Tomorrow, new problems will replace today’s which will become less to non-important as we face those new problems. This is a fact of life. Whether you recognize that or not is up to you.

Most independents have put Trump behind them. Nothing better shows this than the Virginia governor results. With Trump still president, in charge, Virginia independents voted for Biden 57-38. With Trump gone, no longer in charge, no longer president, basically ancient history for most independents, Virginia independents voted for Republican Youngkin 54-45. It is Biden and the Democrats in charge nowadays. It's Biden and the Democrats independents expect to resolve rising prices, inflation. Not to be stuck on the past. The old saying of what have you done for me today, not yesterday applies.

Trends on the movement of States: Blue to Red or Red to Blue

There has been movement from 2000-2021 for the states from red to blue or blue to red. Below is the movement based on PVI, Partisan Voting Index along with their number of electoral votes for the 2024 presidential election.

Arizona from an R+6 down to an R+3. Moving blue. 11 electoral votes
Florida from R+1 to a R+3 getting slightly redder. 30 electoral votes
Georgia from a R+10 down to an R+2 Moving blue 16 electoral votes
Michigan from a D+6 to a R+1 Moving Red 15 electoral votes
Nevada from D+3 to even Moving Red 6 electoral votes
North Carolina from an R+13 down to a R+2 moving blue 16 electoral votes
Ohio From an R+4 up to an R+6 Becoming more red 17 electoral votes
Pennsylvania from D+4 to even moving red 19 electoral votes
Texas from an R+20 down to an R+5 moving blue 40 electoral votes
Wisconsin from a D+10 to a R+2 moving red 10 electoral votes

Interesting to note some southern states trending blue, Georgia, North Carolina and Texas with Florida being the exception as it is trending redder. Virginia is already considered a blue state. States from the Midwest, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are turning red with Ohio getting redder. Out west Nevada is trending red while Arizona is trending blue. If Texas were to turn blue in 2024 along with the other states trending blue, that is 83 electoral votes for the Democrats. If the GOP were to win all the states trending red, their total of electoral votes would be 97.

Nothing is written in stone here. Independents can overcome any PVI a party has in these states listed. I consider all swing states to include Texas and Ohio as one never knows how independents will vote.

I think that just about anybody who votes would be interested in the house hearing. The problem is that they are not really telling anybody anything except stuff like; "we have interviewed over 300 people" and "he is breaking the law", etc. Not particularly interesting. If they want people to be interested then they are going to have to start revealing what they are not talking about. I am not even convinced they would understand the concept as the Dems tend to like to not tell anybody much about anything.

They, obviously, need to do two things. They need to start having public interviews and questions. They also need to talk about what they are doing instead of releasing snippits of this and that so the newsies get to guess what the hell is going on.

If they don't tell anybody what's going on then its REALLY unlikely anybody will be interested. Then there is also the media. Biden has been going here and there and doing stuff. We are told bits and pieces but the coverage isn't all that interesting. Makes me wonder if whatever Biden is doing is very interesting as well. They seem to have stopped the public internal battles (a good thing). The Dems, obviously, need to have some kind of plan. Instead I am not really sure what they are doing!

Again, its good that they are investigating 1/6 It would be a lot better, however, if they worked as hard telling folks about accomplishments, stuff learned, etc. I guess its just a secret. They seem to be very good at secrets.

It's just not time yet for that. They don't want to prematurely release everything. If they investigate fully, they can release bombshells every week before the next election, get congress critters indicted, maybe even get Trump indicted. If Trump extracts enough cash from his supporters and it all goes for criminal fines and civil settlements, then they won't have the spare money to support Republican candidates. It does not matter if Democrats are popular now. It matters if voters are disgusted with Republicans in November.