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What Mueller's Report actually says is that he didn't even look into whether Trump was implicated in any of the things Mueller's investigators uncovered about the Russia probe. What Mueller did detail in the second part of his report, however, is that there were at least ten instances of obstruction of justice by Donald Trump. He then gave that list to Congress and testified to Congress about it. Then AG Bar knowingly, and willingly, mischaracterized the report in his infamous memo writing: The evidence developed during the special counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. Our determination was made without regard to and is not based on the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president. Barr then repeated the lie to Congress. #LockHimUp!
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>Where do you come up with these schemes? Amendment 14 Section 3 No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Not my "scheme". The people who wrote the 14th Amendment after the civil war came up with it, and the states voted to get it added to the constitution. It's still there, and every one who has taken an oath to defend the constitution never said "except for the 14th amendment".
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I’m glad that Barr’s 2019 memo is getting the scrutiny that it deserves. So many immoral and corrupt things were going on during Trump's term in office - it’s hard to keep track of them all.
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The 2019 Barr Memo "summarizing" the Mueller Report, was not written by then AG Bill Barr. It was written by Ed O’Callaghan and Steven Engel of the DoJ. A key part of the Barr Memo is a claim that the evidence in Volume I was “conclusive” in that there wasn’t evidence to charge any of Trump’s flunkies with conspiring with Russia. However, on page 178 of the Mueller Report, Mueller claimed there was conclusive evidence of conspiring and Roger Stone was referred for further investigation into whether he had conspired with Russian to hack. The Office determined that it could not pursue a Section 1030 conspiracy charge against Stone for some of the same legal reasons. The most fundamental hurdles, though, are factual ones.1279
1279 Some of the factual uncertainties are the subject of ongoing investigations that have been referred by this Office to the D.C. U.S. Attorney’s Office. From that point forward, the Barr Memo had to make sure that DOJ wouldn’t pursue that investigation into Stone, because it would expose the lie at the core of Barr's Memo's cover-up. Yes, the then Republican AG of the United States obstructed justice. The weird thing for me is Republican Mueller's silence and no push-back about Barr's fictional interpretation of Mueller's own Report from Mueller. Is it because Mueller is such a "Boy Scout" he would never rat-out a fellow tribesman?
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Barr's Memo stresses that Trump's aides refused to carry out his orders to fire McGabe and Mueller. While Barr's Memo acknowledges that an unsuccessful attempt to commit a crime is still a criminal act, it argues that since Trump backed down prosecutors could not prove his intent beyond a reasonable doubt. Barr's Memo uses the same rationale to dispose of Trump's unsuccessful attempts to get aides to curtail or gut the Russia investigation, which it conflated with his unsuccessful attempt to have Mueller fired, in which Bill Barr defended Trump's actions as a private citizen writing pro-Trump OP-EDs By all means, let’s not have obstruction statutes apply to executives and those directly supervising investigations and prosecutions. That allows politicians and their top legal appointees more room for maneuver and Barr certainly took advantage of that at his own suggestion.
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Interesting footnote in Barr's 9-page Memo: 1. Given the length and detail of the Special Counsel’s Report, we do not recount the relevant facts here. Our discussion and analysis assumes familiarity with the Report as well as much of the background surrounding the Special Counsel’s investigation. Which means Barr's Team didn't even read Muller's Report. - skimmed it perhaps. Barr's 9-page Memo exonerating Trump is written based upon Barr's audition OP-ED cited above when Barr was a private citizen.
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So the upshot of this memo is that The Mueller Report's information about Trump's 10 different documented acts of Obstruction of Justice were real and should have been prosecuted in January of 2021, as soon as Trump was no longer a sitting president. Barr et al, simply covered those up. Garland should have gone forward with prosecution as soon as he came into office. And there was no reason for the Justice Department to fight the release of this memo for the last 20 months. I think there needs to be a purge at the DOJ, of everybody who did this. The statute of limitations for Obstruction of Justice is five years, so Trump could still have those in his indictment. But besides that, Barr and his fellow conspirators need their own Obstruction of Justice indictments. Like they say: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Barr Memo Ends Trump's Career
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The issue is there are Trump loyalists in every aspect of government - from the DoJ to the Secret Service to the military brass. These MAGAts need to be rooted out because these people are against America’s fragile experiment called democracy.
Bill Barr decided even before he was nominated for AG the second time (...the first was under GWHBush when instructed Bush not to pursue the Iran-Contra cabal from the Reagan Administration and pardon them) that Trump should not face obstruction of justice. Barr ended-up obstructing the justice that he was trying to deny including Barr lying to Congress under oath.
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There absolutely are, and most of them have gone silent now in case their guy goes to prison. Very few of them are dumb enough to jump onto a sinking ship. That's for Trump's cannon fodder, like all those January 6th insurrectionists, ambulance-chaser lawyers, and fake electors.
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