Originally Posted by Ken Condon
Ya mean this?

Peahi Maui

From the point of view of Physics, that phenomenon could be characterized as 'barely controlled falling down a moving cliff of water while being chased by a mass of falling water. The gravity of the situation is compelling.

Frank would have understood...

https://images.app.goo.gl/vZbvY6UPTQfZN9SVA

You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller