Capitol Hill Blue Forums Life and Moral Issues Crime & Punishment Texas hostages

I’m sure some of you will be willing to answer this, but please be aware I’m looking for a legal or moral answer, rather than “just because. “

From the AP article I read, it appears that the Texas hostage taker was killed shortly after the last hostage was released. I don’t understand why he was killed. Clearly I’m not defending anything he did. And I do understand that he was armed.

Still, it seems as though all too often in this country we tend to shoot first and ask questions later. This guy was killed when most of the danger was over. And apparently the cops aren’t saying anything about who actually shot him.

Mello, there is no legal or moral reason why the hostage taker was killed when the last hostage was released.

The reality is the event took place in Texas and the hostage taker was Muslim. THAT is the the reality of why the guy was killed.

That answer is the one I lean towards on the surface; however I’m trying to keep an open mind until more is known. The last I heard very little information was being released (which always makes me suspicious anyway.) But I truly am looking for a release of facts that at least attempts to explain some of it.

Mellow, no need for deep thought or analysis. The reason why it happened is simply superficial and shallow.

Once again:

• The event happened in Texas
• The hostage taker is Muslim

Do you honestly think a non-white or Muslim hostage taker would be taken alive in Taxas?

Even the hostage taker said he was going to die there in the synagogue at the hands of law enforcement. .

Thanks for your concern Rick, but if you want, I’ll think on my own schedule.

I’m not finding a lot of news information on why the situation ended as it did. Some reports do say the man repeatedly said he was going to die,but in the context of the article it sounded more like a plea for death rather than a plea for help.

More information may come out - for exampl, whether the man was shot by FBI or by Texas law enforcement.

Rick, I appreciate you opinion but I’m still looking for some facts if I can find them.

That sounds like suicide by cop to me.

I agree that could be an interpretation.

However, if we look at last synagogue takeover which was in Pittsburg in 2018, where people were shot, the take over was by a white guy named Robert Gregory Bowers - and he was arrested.

I'm sticking with my original theory that the guy was Muslim in Texas which is why he was shot and killed when he shot no one.

"If" a plausible explanation by law enforcement ever comes forth (they're probably coming up with a reason why now AFTER the fact...), THAT in and of itself will tell you the answer.

Because is places like Texas, where non-white, non-christians are less than respected and appreciated by right-leaning, white, supposed Christians, there is an unspoken understanding of why things happen the way they do. Because in their mind, those topics (killing someone because they're Muslim) are not spoken about openly and honestly "in polite" society.

Rick! You’ve made yourself clear. You’re beginning to raise your voice; it’s really not necessary.

The FBI is investigating the shooting; that’s all I can find for now.

The hostage taker who took hostage inside Congregation Beth Israel in Colleyville, Texas, was a 44 year old British citizen named Malik Faisal Akram who flew to the US two weeks ago and landed at JFK. Akram was demanding than an individual named Aafia Siddiqui be released from a Texas federal prison, where she is serving an 86-year sentence after being convicted of attempting to murder U.S. soldiers.

According to CNN, authorities started looking for her in the mid-2000s, suspecting her of having developed terrorist ties, and found her in Afghanistan.

During an interrogation, in a moment that was unexpected by the folks who were doing the questioning, Aafia Siddiqui took a firearm, an M-4 from one of the military personnel who was the room, and she began firing at everyone in the room. Luckily, she didn’t hit anyone.

While she was firing, she was yelling anti-American sentiment, “I want to kill as many f-ing Americans as I can.” She was taken into custody, after being shot and taken care of, and then sent to New York for prosecution.

According to CNN: