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I suspect the Russian people understand fully what is at stake having a rapacious murderous empire rolling up to its borders.

They’ve also had the lived experience of having their country asset stripped from the Harvard boys of the 90’s.

They may also have a collective memory of WW2, having lost over 20 million to defeat the Nazis. Makes our supporting neonazis on their border a bit awkward.

Conversely, liberals only have their Emanuel Goldstein style propoganda to get them thru their political incompetence and failure. Not much of a solid footing to start a war with but here we are. Look no further than the product of that politics occupant in the white house to manage their ship of state. It’s quit possible the ruling class oligarchs in this country will wonder why our economy will be put in a tailspin for a country having no strategic interest beyond employment opportunities for the politically connected.

I have found liberals quit comfortable with the horrors of war being unleashed by them over the decades. I suspect they will be ok with the Russophobia redbaiting propaganda that has helped lead to this current crises. It’s a rightwing liberal in the White House with the same rightwing liberals and neocons at state. Rightwing liberal majorities in Congress.

Deflecting this current failure of theirs on ‘trumptards’ looks to be the order of the day going forward then?

Caught Putin’s speech last night live on Jazeera. As usual, very measured and concise. Very lawyerly, building a case like an opening argument.

Some key takeaways were the historical references, the lack of trust for anything the US has to say and the Kosovo incursion of NATO forces as a legal precedent.

Surreal going over to the UN Security Council meeting, chaired by Russia currently, and watching the Ukraine ambassador addressing the council, just having gotten Putin’s speech summary and Vid on his cell phone. The exchange between him and Russia’s rep Nebenzya was funny though the situation is deadly serious.

Mearsheimer Looks to be correct and Nebenzya appeared to me to sound like someone ‘who’s been led down the primrose path’.

Putins to-do list was also played out so far. I admit, I thought they would use air and artillery for the most part and would be surprised if the try and occupy the hostile regions of Ukraine. Worth listening to in full without the Langley editorializing.

My guess will the creation of a buffer state composed of Crimea, Lugansk and Donbass with whatever other eastern regions that will want to join in. The US and NATO can have at the rest of the dysfunctional remains now flooded with guns and fascist. Work for CIA MI6 and Blackwater no doubt.

Not hinted at by Putin but you have to wonder, would cracking up NATO over this Ukraine farce not be a welcome outcome. Not immediately but over time? It will surely occur to many what a hollowed out institution it has now become. A few helicopters from Italy and APC’s in Poland.

This does seem to be a turning point.

Turning points are often good, even if millions die.

Dunno Gregor. In my experience, things often get worse but they’re gunna do what their gunna do. What’s unsettling is who we got in the drivers seat. Oddly, I have more confidence in Russian strategic actions than I do this countries current crop.
We are definitely moving into a multipolar world again. Gunna get bumpy is my guess.

Is it Chicken Kee-evvve? Or Chicken Keeve?

En serio…