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Jeffrey, I have stated many times I’m adamantly opposed to any type of gerrymandering. But it’s going to happen and both sides will take advantage of it to no end when they can. 2010 was a GOP year, 2020 has been a Democratic year. I don’t expect either side to not gerrymandering when they can, that would be like laying down your arms before the fight began just to prove a moral point. I don’t begrudge the democrats this year for winning the gerrymandering war, they’re fighting fire with fire.
Now what I expect since both sides are going to gerrymander to the max, is to stop demonizing the other side for their gerrymandering or using gerrymandering as an excuse when either side loses a congressional election. Congress could stop gerrymandering but won’t. Way too many congressional critters owe their seats in congress to gerrymandering. They’re not about to put their own seat at risk regardless of the rhetoric spouted. That just PR propaganda. I was actually asking @Greger, but your point is taken.
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Well, the apple cart was just upset with Ohio and Wisconsin completing their redistricting process. Just 4 states remain. The 17 safe seat advantage the Democrats had has been narrowed to 4. Here’s the latest.
PART I STATES COMPLETED REDISTRICTING
Ohio and Wisconsin have become the 45th and 46th states to complete their redistricting, 4 more remaining. We now have 391 newly drawn districts; 44 districts remain to be redrawn. Out of the 391 newly drawn districts, there are 37 competitive, switchable districts. Currently held by 25 Democrats and 12 Republicans. Safe seats as of 3 Mar 2022, 179 Democratic, 175 Republican.
States in litigation that will probably change the above listed safe and competitive seats depending on the outcome of the lawsuits are listed below.
Maryland – Democratic legislature Nevada – Democratic legislature New Mexico – Democratic legislature New York – Democratic legislature Texas – Republican legislature
_____________________________________________________________________________________ PART II Safe Seat/Competitive seat watch
With 46 states having completed their redistricting. As of 3 Mar, the Democrats have 179 safe seats to 175 safe Republican seats. A 4-seat Democratic advantage. There are 4 states remaining who haven’t completed their redistricting which will change the above.
The importance of safe seats is that they let you know how many seats from the competitive column and those districts yet to be redrawn a party must win to gain control of the House. As of today, the democrats need 39 more seats to reach the magic number of 218. The Republicans need 43. It remains to be seen how many safe seats each of the 4 remaining states add to each party’s safe seat column. The 4 remaining states are New Hampshire, Florida, Louisiana and Missouri.
Numbers to remember, to remain in control of the House, the Democrats need 39 seats above their safe seat number. The Republicans need 43 above their safe seat number to take control of the house. 37 seats are in the competitive/switchable column, 25 Democratic, 12 Republican along with 44 more districts to be redrawn in which to obtain those seats from. These numbers alone will lead to a reliable forecast for the midterms in November once redistricting is completed.
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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Greger, on Florida’s redistricting in case you didn’t already know.
Florida voters have filed a lawsuit. The complaint asks the court to intervene and assume jurisdiction over the congressional redistricting process because of the political impasse between the state legislature and the governor.
Florida remains one of the last four states which hasn’t completed their redistricting. New Hampshire, Louisiana and Missouri are the other three.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Not much is gonna change here. Governor Redmeat and his far-right accomplices in Tallahassee have carried racism and bigotry to new levels in their attempt to out-Trump Trump.
In a sane world, voters would answer this insanity by booting the whole lot of them out.
Redmeat's opponents aren't even close. He will win next November and in November 2024 as well if Democrats don't get a handle on what is coming and a few lucky breaks.
Florida's US Senators have jumped into the redmeat frenzy too. I'm wondering if this Trumpier than Trump strategy is gonna become a red wave or a liability for the party.
We'll find out along and along.
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I don’t think there’s any sanity in politics whatsoever. Republicans must try to out Trump Trump in order to win in the primaries or be primaried out. The fact that 55% or more of all Americans are dissatisfied with Biden and company performance at this juncture while the house and senate are a pretty even battle instead of showing a red wave, perhaps it is the Trump’s influence which a majority of voters dislike and find distasteful.
The big question, which will win out come November? The dissatisfaction with the job Biden and company are doing win out over the dislike for Trump and his antics or will it be the opposite? You have the mushy middle or coach potatoes as you put it. The midterms are in their hands, the base of both major parties basically cancel each other out. These coach potatoes will decide who controls congress.
Most of the mushy middle will vote their situation when push comes to shove. They always have. All rhetoric aside, if the mushy middle feels their lives are improving, they vote for the party in power. If they think their lives are getting worse, they’ll vote for the party out of power. I think if the GOP had gotten rid of Trump, that he faded away into oblivion like most ex-president’s do, with today situation, inflation and all, the red wave would be rolling, perhaps turning into a tsunami. Trump didn’t fade away; the red wave today is still a ripple. But that ripple will be enough for the GOP to regain control of the house with senate outcome still 50-50.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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If that ripple can do no more than a five-seat majority in the house then I'm not terribly concerned about it.
A long time ago I predicted that Trump would serve a single term and so tarnish the party that future attempts at Trumpism would be met with disdain across the board. Ever the optimist, as I've said.
Trump was soundly defeated as expected and Trumpism is very much alive in his defeat and vying to take back control, with or without him.
Will independent voters rise to the occasion? Will they stamp out this cancerous growth on the body politic? Or will they usher in an era of isolationism at a time when global cooperation is imperative?
I will vote for the beleaguered Democrats across the board, but I have no idea what the other independents will do, we aren't a party with partisan motivations and we have very little in common with each other besides disgust with the partisan squabbling.
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Today, independents are leaning for voting for the Republican congressional candidates 35-28. But so many are undecided/not sure. Who knows how’ll they come down in the end? The fact that Trump isn’t on the ballot probably helps the Republicans this midterm. Remember Virginia, Youngkin and the almost upset in New Jersey where Democrats outnumbered Republicans by a million or more voters. One could say, Trump was a non-factor in those two states last year.
It's very possible the GOP regains control of both chambers of congress this year. But if Trump were to run again in 2024, he’d go down big. Most Americans want both parties to work together for the betterment of the country. They aren’t and haven’t for quite a while. This could be one of the main reasons both parties are shrinking. As you stated, folks are just plain tired and disgusted of all the squabbling, ranting, raving, and what I call the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship that forbids working together, compromising and playing the old political game of give and take. If Reagan and Tip O’Neal, if Mitchell and Dole, Lott and Daschle could do this, why can’t today’s party leaders do the same?
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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If Reagan and Tip O’Neal, if Mitchell and Dole, Lott and Daschle could do this, why can’t today’s party leaders do the same?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it's because they aren't leaders at all. They are followers. Followers of polls, followers of the whims of the electorate, followers of partisan media.
It seems our leaders are following unruly mobs with unreasonable demands.
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I think at times I live too much in the past. When I saw the results of a 50-50 senate tie after the 2020 election cycle, I expected another power sharing deal like Lott and Daschle worked out after the 2000 presidential election. https://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/05/senate.powershare/index.htmlNow that is leadership, leadership that overcame partisan haggling and loyalty to party. It proved the two parties could work together and come to compromises for the betterment of the country. All that proved is I’m a oddball. Perhaps because I don’t belong or affiliate with either major party. I just want a government that works, that takes the views of all citizens into consideration and not just limit their view to their party’s base. Kind of dumb ain’t it. I think the electorate, at least those in the independent column with no attachments to the two major parties also want the above. You have this though. “The public says it prefers compromise, but compromisers often face anger from their own party†https://today.yougov.com/topics/pol...7/public-says-it-prefers-compromise-poll
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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I just saw an article at Politico maybe about how much the Democratic senate has actually accomplished. With the war and future bipartisan agreements coming into focus it stands to add even more feathers to its cap.
Compromising and reaching agreements has never been easy and perhaps historical lillys are easier to guild than current ones? I mostly remember those guys at each other's throats.
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