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I seriously doubt you or anyone could prove that the only people shelling those breakaways are the neo-Nazis.
And that's because it's simply not the case.
War has always made strange bedfellows. In fact, WW2 it was the entire free world PLUS the Soviets and truth be told, the Russian advance on Berlin ended it a lot sooner.
Trouble is, to the victor go the spoils and they wasted no time in divvying up Berlin and half of Germany.

So, Russia versus Ukraine, Ukraine's majority apparently looks the other way because a bunch of nationalistic neo-Nazis want to fight, and fight hard.
And you're right, in the end that must feel personal to Vladimir Putin, but in a wag the dog response he's making it look and sound like "only those horrible Nazis" are
doing all the shelling and fighting and that's simply not the case unless one is blind and deaf and unable to recognize the fact that Ukrainians elected a jew to lead them.
So yeah, to some extent it IS "mumble mumble" because Putin's the one reducing it to mumble mumble, the same way Trump reduces Democrats to "mumble mumble damn Commies".
Sorry but you're incorrect, Putin IS MAKING it sound as if denazification IS the real reason..."the nazis have corrupted Ukraine so that it is no longer part of Russia, which it always has been."
That's what Russians hear, that's what they're being told.

And when it comes to seizing on grievances from the past to dehumanize an entire group, that's what Holodomor was all about, despite your attempts to minimize it.
The fact that a bunch of neo-Nazis chose to use that history as justification for their attempt to erase the HOLODOMOR-DRIVEN ethnic cleansing of millions of Ukrainians is just an example of how rhetorical flourishes act as unifying battle cries is academic.
Even if most Ukrainians aren't fond of neo-Nazis, in the end they're going to let them fight if they are fighting the Russians.

Here is an example of how that might play out in America:

Suppose fascism DOES win here...and the retooled DoD decides it's time to "neutralize all those communists in California" by sending several large battalions to Los Angeles.
Will Angelenos rise up and try to kill off the Bloods, Crips, 18th Street and White Fence gangs if they signal their willingness to fight the Pentagon Fascists?

I doubt it.
That doesn't mean Los Angeles is run by the Bloods and Crips, does it?
Does it mean that L.A. is all Bloods and Crips?
Trump would IMMEDIATELY declare that he's just wiping out those communist street gangs "that run California" and he'd waste no time labeling Angelenos as such to the rest of the country, to his deplorables.

You down with that, homie?