Originally Posted by chunkstyle
No, it’s not obvious why.

If it suited the needs of Mexico or Cuba any other neighbor to align itself with the Chinese or Russian governments, would that then make it ok to have either of those countries troops, bases and weapon systems on neighboring territory?


Okay then it's not obvious why and I'll have to live with that.
Still, I live HERE, so I guess that makes me jingoistic in your book, have to live with that, too.

Thing is, if Putin succeeds in putting Ukraine back in the subdued colony list, he's going to do everything in his power to regain access to his vast
global cash holdings, distribute it to his friends in the US Congress and then he ends up funding a fascist takeover here, at which point you can count on
Russian troops wherever he wants them, including inside the borders of his favorite client state, the United States.
He already has 147 congressmen on his side.
You don't seem to have much to say about that either...I know I know, "you hate both sides" you're both-siding this to death.

Sorry that you think 100% of Russia's demands are reasonable and sorry you think it's okay that they are also 100% non-negotiable.
And I am not interested in debating the merits pro or con, I'm really not, because I don't think there's much left to talk about.
Far as I can tell, you're not interested in Ukraine's future...unless it meets Putin's full approval.
Ukraine has a right to its own self-determination, Ukraine has a right to be a democratic republic.
Russia's demands need to be a bit more negotiable.
I guess we will find out if that comes to pass.

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