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That's called Gish Galloping.
This is your thread but I was under the impression it was about Ukraine.
Maybe I'm wrong and it's about "If I can't get you to lay down and agree then I get to hang a jacket on you about body counts, Yemen, too many coups and how everthing-in-the-world-is-americas-fault-omgomgomg-tehhorrorofitall."

In which case, I give up and you win.

But if it really is about Ukraine, which I assume was the hint in "Dumbass" (Donbass??) then I once again remind you that not too long ago that region had Ukrainians living in it until
Stalin decided to do some ethnic cleansing, and ever since, there's Russians there almost exclusively.

Same with those other eastern Russian speaking provinces. They're Russian speaking because anyone who was Ukrainian was liquidated, or moved on outta there.
And my aghastitude simply wants to know if Ukrainians, living IN Ukrainian cities, speaking Ukrainian and depending upon their Ukrainian leadership for protection,
get any say in this whatsoever.

Did you now want to switch to Yemen?
Okay, this is now a thread about Yemen.
Happy now?

Your pretty good at reading my thoughts Jeff. What do you need me to respond for.

Carry on. You always are.

First, I thought you said you were done talking to me. Guess not.
Second, as regards "dealing with a nuclear power", I guess that has already been decided because Putin has apparently directed his army to begin shelling a nuclear power plant.


Fire at Ukrainian nuclear plant, Europe's largest, after Russian attack
A generating unit at the plant has been hit during an attack by Russian troops and part of the station is on fire, RIA news agency cited the Ukrainian atomic energy ministry as saying on Friday.

I suppose that's our fault too, right?

Wonder what happenned to all those polish Jews?….
Hmmmmmmm

Aww Jeeze, oh man what’s these people…
Banderites

Oh nooos they don’t sound nice. We’re they nice? Aw Jeeze
Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

Oh man, that’s not good. They weren’t anti Semitic though were they? Aw Jeeze, you gotta be anti Semitic to be a fascist. Oh boy I hope they weren’t…

“ The OUN-B formed Ukrainian death squads that carried out pogroms and massacres both independently and with support from the Germans”

Crap!!!

Oh man, oh boy. But that was in the past. That’s no important anymore. These folks all went away. Putin’s the fascist. Putin bad! He’s silly talking about Nazis…

‘ In 2014, the regiment gained notoriety after allegations emerged of torture and war crimes, as well as neo-Nazi sympathies and usage of associated symbols by the regiment, as seen in their logo featuring the Wolfsangel, one of the original symbols used by the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich. ’
Azov Battalion

Double crap!!!

I could go on but you get the gist. I brought up arming and supporting of neonazis in the Ukraine up back in 2016 asi recall. Not a peep from the son of jewish refugees from Germany.

How… odd…

You want s dive that’s easy to wrap your head around these mythical Ukrainian neo Nazis and their outsized impact on the government of Ukraine? Well your in luck! Max Blumenthal, from muck racking Grey Zone and Jimmy Dore dived into it tonight. Wow, what luck!



Arrrrrrgggg!!! Fake news!!! It Burns!!

What "mythical" Ukrainian neo-Nazis?

You brought it up in 2016 and I missed it? Yah, I guess I did miss it.

What's your global point on this.
Yours, not Jimmy Dore...I am tired of sitting and watching some hour long YouTube video because you're too lazy.
Show the video if you like but if you can't be bothered to summarize, I can't be bothered to devote two or three hours watching Jimmy Dore.
Besides, you're almost a carbon copy of the guy anyway, right?

You saying Ukraine is all nazi?

I brought up Poland and the extremely dangerous kaliningrad situation. It was met with crickets mostly. Some shoulder shrugging. Here we are.

Your damn right the far right has a strong and growing international, BTW,Azov, Ukraine's Most Prominent Ultranationalist Group, Sets Its Sights On U.S., Europe

You wanna go down the rabbit hole Jeff?

In the 2012 Ukrainian parliamentary elections "Svoboda" won its first seats in the Ukrainian Parliament,[28] garnering 10.44% of the popular vote and the 4th most seats among national political parties.[29] In the 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary elections the party got 6 parliamentary seats (it won 4.71% of the popular vote in this election).[30] In the 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election other parties joined Svoboda to form a united party list, these were the Governmental Initiative of Yarosh, Right Sector and National Corps.[31] But in the election this combination won 2.15% of the votes, less than half of the 5% election threshold, and thus no parliamentary seats via the national party list.[32] Svoboda itself did win one constituency seat, in Ivano-Frankivsk.[32][33]

Jeezus, that's less than the Tea Party in 2012, less than the Qanon/Trump faction in 2016.
So much for your theory that modern day Ukraine is pure nazi and that we're supporting nazis.

I think support for antisemitism is on the wane in Ukraine...just a pet theory, because:

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Shelling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe is a place the entire world doesn't want to be at.
Worse than shelling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe isn't the fault of the United States either.

Did you say the US shelled a Ukrainian nuclear power plant? What the hell jeff! Why would we do that!!!

Yeah, I already mentioned Zelensky’s election was a complete repudiation of Maidan carried out by far right elements. He won a as huge victory on his platform.

Aww Jeeze Jeff, where’d all those Nazis go? What happened to em? Are they gone now? It all so difficult to understand. Russia stealing our elections, Trump jerking off to peeing prostitutes, Israelis arming neo Nazis, the protocols of the elders of Zion. It’s all so confusing.