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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Did you say the US shelled a Ukrainian nuclear power plant?

Show me where I said the US shelled a Ukrainian nuclear power plant.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
I brought up Poland and the extremely dangerous kaliningrad situation. It was met with crickets mostly. Some shoulder shrugging. Here we are.

Your damn right the far right has a strong and growing international, BTW,Azov, Ukraine's Most Prominent Ultranationalist Group, Sets Its Sights On U.S., Europe

You wanna go down the rabbit hole Jeff?

I asked if you believe that the Ukrainians are all nazis (or nazi sympathizers) and I showed the latest on Far Right presence in their legislative body...at the current time it looks as though the Ukrainian Far Right coalition presence in the Rada is smaller than the American Far Right presence in Congress, which is about fifty percent.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
I brought up Poland and the extremely dangerous kaliningrad situation. It was met with crickets mostly. Some shoulder shrugging. Here we are.

Then I must have missed that thread.

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Your damn right the far right has a strong and growing international, BTW,Azov, Ukraine's Most Prominent Ultranationalist Group, Sets Its Sights On U.S., Europe

You wanna go down the rabbit hole Jeff?

Apparently not as large as our own Far Right presence.
Anaheim California, home to Disneyland, apparently has a larger Far Right White Nationalist presence than modern day Ukraine.
And as I asked earlier:

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I don't live or work in Ukraine so I cannot fix their nascent neo-Nazi issues, but I suspect that they are a reflection of a growing neo-Nazi movement around the world.
Are Democrats funding those movements? Is Biden funding them? Did Obama fund them?
Or could it be folks like Putin and his admirers in the Republican Party and their oligarch friends in ALEC?

And I also made a rough analogy on possible similar scenarios in California where strange bedfellows might unite...

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Here is an example of how that might play out in America:

Suppose fascism DOES win here...and the retooled DoD decides it's time to "neutralize all those communists in California" by sending several large battalions to Los Angeles.
Will Angelenos rise up and try to kill off the Bloods, Crips, 18th Street and White Fence gangs if they signal their willingness to fight the (Trump) Pentagon Fascists?

I doubt it.
That doesn't mean Los Angeles is run by the Bloods and Crips, does it?
Does it mean that L.A. is all Bloods and Crips?
Trump would IMMEDIATELY declare that he's just wiping out those communist street gangs "that run California" and he'd waste no time labeling Angelenos as such to the rest of the country, to his deplorables.

You down with that, homie?

There, I posted it again so you can see it again.


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Aw Jeeze Jeff, I think I answered your questions. I don’t know, did I?
Oh man, you mean RUSSIANS are fascists and Ukrainians have none. Oh wow, how’d I miss that,
Hoo boy, 25 million dead Russians from the German Nazis and now their the Nazis?
Wow. Life. Don’t try to understand it. What’s the news have to say about it?

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Aw boy Jeff. Help me understand. I’m so confused. Aren’t there Jews in Israel? Didn’t some of em come from Germany to escape the Nazis? What’s going on, I don’t understand.. Are these the children of German Jews? Some of them? Why are they doing this Jeffrey?

Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

Aw man Jeff, oh boy. Don’t these guys know about the letters of the elders of Zion and the pogroms and the starvations. Oh man Jeff, it’s all so complicated and confusing. I’m scared. Give me a simple explanation Jeff. Just tell me who’s to blame Jeff..

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“ The DC establishment’s standard defense of Kiev is to point out that Ukraine’s far right has a smaller percentage of seats in the parliament than their counterparts in places like France. That’s a spurious argument: What Ukraine’s far right lacks in polls numbers, it makes up for with things Marine Le Pen could only dream of—paramilitary units and free rein on the streets.”

Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine

Oh wow Jeff, that’s spooky. Howd they do that Jeff? Howd they predict what you’d say about the ultranationalist in Ukraine politics? Howd they do that Jeff? That’s from three years ago. It’s 2022 now. Howd they know you would say that. It’s so weird Jeff.

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Paramilitary units Jeff! That’s where I bet they are. Yeah that makes sense. Wonder what they’ve been doing Jeff. Do they know about the letters of the elders of Zion Jeff? Do they know about the starving and the pogroms? Why are they fighting Russians Jeff? Don’t they know they should be friends Jeff? Hasn’t anyone told the Azov bois they’re bothers? I don’t get it. How does this mistake happen? Why are they fighting each other? Is it because Stalin Jeff. Was it because of the starving times that Nazis fight fascists?

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Somewhere in the flame wars if this thread, which I’m guilty of and apologize to offended fellow ranters, I mentioned Tiabbi recent piece:

“ For anyone expecting me to be outraged about this — I am, after all, almost daily denounced as a Putin-lover and apologist, so surely I must want the Great Leader to stay in power forever — I have to disappoint. If Vladimir Putin were captured tomorrow and fired into space, I wouldn’t bat an eye.

I would like to point out that we already tried regime change in Russia. I remember, because I was there. And, thanks to a lot of lurid history that’s being scrubbed now with furious intensity, it ended with Vladimir Putin in power. Not as an accident, or as the face of a populist revolt against Western influence — that came later — but precisely because we made a long series of intentional decisions to help put him there.”

Putin the apostate

No love for Putin found there but brings up inconvenient history in the midst of a media fire hose of misinformation that’s been happening.

I can’t believe how many times I’ve watched this movie in my lifetime..

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"Elected on a platform of de-escalation of hostilities with Russia, Zelensky was determined to enforce the so-called Steinmeier Formula conceived by then-German Foreign Minister Walter Steinmeier which called for elections in the Russian-speaking regions of Donetsk and Lugansk.

In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called “No to Capitulation,” Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted down on camera. “I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: remove the weapons,” Zelensky implored the fighters."
How Ukraine’s Jewish preside...taries on front lines of war with Russia

Whaaaa!!!

but...but..but... Zelenski's Jewish!

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