I like this article from the Jerusalem Post in its intent to provide cover for supporting a side in the conflict by dismissing the aims of Russia’s ‘denazification’ rational to invade. While I don’t believe it’s the main reason, taking Mearsheimer‘s strategic balance of power rational as a main driver, it’s been reported on that thefailure to get The Minsk agreement implemented was on account of the persistent thwarting by the fascist elements in Ukraine’s government and military.

“ While Ukraine, along with many other European countries, has far-right political parties and neo-Nazi organizations, the fact that since its turn to the West in 2014, there have been prominent Jews in the Ukrainian government and its current president is Jewish make this claim seem ludicrous.….

…. The battalion has been a bastion of neo-Nazis and extreme right-wing figures. As an independent militia, Azov originally sported the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background, and its founders came from the ranks of a paramilitary national socialist group called “Patriots of Ukraine.” It was also accused of committing torture and war crimes.

Ok, so far so good. Recognizing this internal political and military problem is real. But here’s the ‘nothingburger’ attempt at justifying the support of a side in an 8 year civil war that has neonazi elements-

“ However, since its incorporation into Ukraine's official armed forces it has moved away from neo-Nazism, and a Ukrainian Jewish group as early as 2016 did not oppose lifting the US ban.”

Huh! So if you’ve incorporated neonazi elements into official armed forces those elements are no longer fascist neonazis?…. How so?
What about the possibility that the reverse is also as likely? The Ukrainian military becomes more fascist by harboring, well, fascists within it.

If you’ve not been paying attention to these internal conflicts in Ukraine it’s doubtful you would know about the undermining of the Minsk agreements, to reunify the breakaway republics and end the ongoing paramilitary violence there, by these same fascists elements. My understanding is the hardcore have been put into leadership roles at the troop level. Placing them there is an insurance policy that the regular troops won’t dare surrender and risk being killed by same.

I fear without the ability for a quick surrender, the difficult task of overcoming resistance will mean a lot more bloodshed. With us assistance as usual. We seem determined to fight to the last Ukrainian.

Partition looks inevitable and the west will have a far right buffer state in western Ukraine full of fascist right wing neonazis anc far right ultranationalist. You know.., freedom fighters.

Should go well. Hasn’t it always?

Last edited by chunkstyle; 03/05/22 06:31 PM.