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Did you suggest catfish? I hear those are popular with the coloreds.

A couple of buddies caught a FORTY-FIVE POUND river catfish once and made a meal out of it.
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sorry i'm late to the debate.

I have viewed the Republican base for many years now as racist/bigots, because ... well I live among them. I know what they think.

The problem in discussing this issue is the conflation of the base and the elected officials. By and large the base near me in a non-scientific poll are bigots bordering on 80% - 90%. I see the elected class as less so in the public domain.

So what I concluded was in order for the elected class to assuage their base, they have been on a concerted campaign of denial of racism/bigotry for many years. Their campaign has worked. Almost no one in the base says or thinks they are racist or a bigot.

I thought in the 60's racism would be mitigated within 3 generations, but little did I know people with influence would continue to prop it up. Republicans at this point can not afford to correct the record, because the base now has extorted them with their vote.

It's easy to see any of them saying .... I'm not a racist but my supporters are.

What does that even mean??? I was the getaway driver ... not the bank robber.


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There has been a lot of virtual ink spilled about the GOP being in thrall to Trump and its radicalized base. They operate from fear, not principle. The opposition to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, however, exposed a level of debasement only previously fully displayed at Trump cabinet meetings.

Numerous GOP Senators praised her acumen, qualifications and intellect - even extolling the historic nature of her elevation - then vowed to vote against her. Claims were made that she was "radical" - always devoid of evidence - and "soft on pedophiles", which was not only laughably untrue, but openly hypocritical. Then the bulk of the Republican Senators walked out after her confirmation.

No, what is really driving the opposition is not politics, but good old-fashioned racism, and not the systemic kind. That is not to say all of the Senators in opposition are themselves racist (although some of them hide it poorly), but the fear of being perceived as "not racist enough" for the MAGA-infused "base" of their party.

Rather than standing on principle, or having a cohesive philosophy or coherent, consistent criterial basis for determining "qualification" for a Supreme Court candidate, they fall to pablum and openly disingenuous criticism to cover their fear. It's frankly disgusting and embarrassing. This is what the GOP has devolved to - surrender to the Klan. White flag, white robes; the distinction is immaterial. What is relevant is the whiteness.

There is a consistent "branding" effort by the GOP and it has backslid into supporting racism under the guise of it being "just politics." It's not any more than Jim Crow and the Klan were "just politics". Racism promoted for whatever reason does need to be pointed out, or else it is deemed "acceptable" and normalized. It is very difficult to discern when one goes from "pandering" to a "fellow traveler". Frankly, I'm not sure that the distinction is important.


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This just in, although it could have just as easily been a 2020 news item...

RNC unanimously votes to withdraw from Commission on Presidential Debates

---The Republican National Committee voted unanimously on Thursday to withdraw from its participation in the Commission on Presidential Debates, the organization that has long governed general-election presidential debates.
I suppose it is difficult for Republicans to debate policy when the republican party doesn't have a platform aside from Mr. Potatohead, banned books, killing off democracy and scary gay teens.

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Once again...the Republican Platform is unchanged from 2016.

Due to the pandemic and the nature of the 2020 convention, it was resolved that the Platform would not be re-written until 2024.

Mr. Potatohead is done. While his whims still drive a faction of the Republican party, most of them are aware that he will not be back to wreak further havoc.

Republicans don't want non-partisan commissions running the debates anymore. If there are to be debates they must be heavily weighted in favor of Republicans.

Tucker Carlson, for instance, would be considered a non threatening moderator for the debates. It is what it is, it's how they play the game now.

If that's what America wants they will vote accordingly.


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It makes sense for the Republicans not to take part in public debate. Why would they do that? They keep up the crazy and everybody loves it. They sure don't want to go public against somebody the Dems might have that may actually point out their failures. Without something like that they can just keep trashing the Dems who seem to not want to even try and do something about that. On top of that there is the media. They cover what entertain people, nothing more, nothing less. That being the obvious case they will also get most of the exposure as the Democratic message is not, really, all that entertaining.

America, obviously, just wants to be entertained - nothing more, nothing less. Republicans understand this, the Dems unfortunately haven't a clue. My hope is that they get one, actually get organized, sit down (or hire an ad agency) and, at least, start to define just what kind of messages they want to use, and speak with as close to one voice as they can get.

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Invite Libertarian Party candidates to debate the Democrats instead. This would pull GOP votes towards the LP. It is a win-win for Democrats.



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that might be dangerous. Libertarians are interesting. I actually subscribe to their magazine (Reason) and its interesting. They also don't go too far. They REALLY want to privatize all of government if given a chance. Barring that they are very likeable and logical, for the most part and its unfortunate that they tend to go too far. I know, so do the other parties too. Its one reason I can't buy into any of them.

For absolutely no reasons political parties seem to want to go too far. Whilst Libertarians sometimes go too far the Republicans win that prize hands down. 15 files from my town there is a town called Sequim. I can remember when somebody living there took over the state Libertarian party. What a circus that was! He kinda went away when Califormia found him and sued him for not paying his taxes.

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Originally Posted by jgw
that might be dangerous. Libertarians are interesting. I actually subscribe to their magazine (Reason) and its interesting. They also don't go too far. They REALLY want to privatize all of government if given a chance. Barring that they are very likeable and logical, for the most part and its unfortunate that they tend to go too far. I know, so do the other parties too. Its one reason I can't buy into any of them.

For absolutely no reasons political parties seem to want to go too far. Whilst Libertarians sometimes go too far the Republicans win that prize hands down. 15 files from my town there is a town called Sequim. I can remember when somebody living there took over the state Libertarian party. What a circus that was! He kinda went away when Califormia found him and sued him for not paying his taxes.

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15 files from my town there is a town called Sequim. I can remember when somebody living there took over the state Libertarian party. What a circus that was! He kinda went away when Califormia found him and sued him for not paying his taxes.

My wife got me roped into watching "90 Day Fiance" and one of the star couples was "Mike and Natalia".
Natalia is from Ukraine and Mike lives in Sequim, WA.

I wonder IF Mike might BE that libertarian.

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