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Yeah, mebbe.
Finishing a job for a regenerative farmer. A long but interesting discussion. They’ll be in a better position to withstand what’s coming pretty much because of what you said. There inputs are a lot lower compared to the commodities farming.
His view of the expected hard times to come for those operations is more opportunities for further consolidation. He looks at that activity as more of a property acquisition and management operation that pencils out if it’s organized as a commercial farm activity.
But I agree with you about farming as a key to global warming. Inputs as well as activity. Biochar one of many.

Ok. I can cut to the chase. Sorry if I’m being wordy.

I think your spouting nonsense about the situation of Russia and backing your claims of a few thousand exiled is ridiculous. Sanctions are consolidating public opinion behind Putin.
You don’t have to love him to say that, you just have to read an opinion poll. Same as Europe. How silly I didn’t read from thousands of exiles. Say, that must have been hard work. How’d you manage that?

I thought it would be polite to explain why but I guess I’ll stick to opinions and keep it short for now on.

Of course they are because Putin has no opposition and controls ALL the news in Russia.

Public opinion in Russia seems to be that Ukraine was the invader. Just because Russians believe they are fighting a desperate war for their survival and they support their fearless leader is nonsense. That thousands of Russians are fleeing the oppressive yoke of Putin's leadership means nothing to you? That the youngest and brightest are leaving for greener pastures means nothing? Only the indoctrinated remain. All opposition has been vanquished and Putin is expanding his borders through force.

I want to feel sorry for him like you do and I want all those Putinites in Russia to be happy cutting drywall screws until they fall over dead so the very wealthy can hoard more yachts.

But Putin is not conquering the Ukrainian people so he can make their lives better.

He's doing it to serve industry and amass more wealth at the expense of Russians and Ukrainians alike.

Nonsense? Maybe. Perhaps in your walls of text you could try to convince me I'm wrong.

Thus far you mostly reinforce what I already believe.

You haven't convinced me I'm wrong about Clinton yet and you aren't liable to convince me that poor Vlad was forced into this corner and had no choice but to attack Ukraine because of Western aggression and failure to yield to his demands.

Russia is a pissant nation trying to leverage its petroleum supply here at the end of the Petroleum Age. It is Russia that needs to yield(or compromise) not the West.

From Price Wars by Rupert Russell.
I was not aware of this gas and oil discovery and if anything this explains Donbas and getting the ring around from Donbas to Odessa to get Control of the Black Sea oil there.

Your contempt for blue collar jobs and the families that were supported by them are noted. The broader implication remains. We are a financialized economy now and not an industrial economy. That makes us vulnerable, especially to certain import realities. But keep dreaming of your techno utopia future just over the horizon. As someone who grew up in an area of the country that suffered the economic shocks of planned deindustrialization, Ive heard that condescending language for years now.

Anyway, I find all this heart sleeve yammering just so much repeating of corporate propaganda. We’re assisting in a genocide with a true authoritarian monarchy so spare me the ‘but the poor fleeing Russians. Whose thinking of those Russians!!!’’ And screw the phoney whataboutism the usual hypocrites throw up.

The fact is we have zealots running state for decades that have their very publicly stated aim of preserving ‘full spectrum global dominance’. An insane theory that is running into the contradictions of the last 40 years of neoliberal economics. The screw cutting machine was a small example of a large problem. Wait till we get going with China. We don’t make s*** anymore to the ruin of working classes and even middle classes. The ruling classes seem not to understand this correctly.



I thought it was about the Voldemort and the protocols of the elders of Zion? That’s what was making it all so emotionally personal for you as the son a German Jewish immigrants, iirc.

Are you now saying it’s got more than one dimension?

Cancelling Nordstream 2 was a multi administration objective that’s been accomplished now. Yeah, there’s a lot going on in the Ukraine.

Should we talk about the Biden’s involvement yet or is that still verboten. The corporate press has lifted its media blackout. One wonders at the timing of that.

Just to keep things in perspective, or attempt to anyhow, here’s a couple lazy links to the natural gas resource comparisons of Ukraine and Russia:

Natural gas in Ukraine

Natural gas in Russia

Considering Russia’s proven reserves are massive in comparison to whats in or around Ukraine, I don’t think Russia needed to go to war with its neighbor for petro reserves as it already controls the global gas markets.

I’m still leaning on NATO expansion to Russia’s borders, installing weapons systems into those expanded countries, NATO’s commitment to Ukraine joining NATO, the following 2014 maidan coup, the shelling for 8 years of the breakaway republics that resulted from that coup, NATO training of Ukranian forces during those eight years and goading by the US to invade those two breakaway regions.

I think Russia’s national security interests trumped any petro market interest that they already control by virtue of having the largest gas reserves in the world. Looks like a weak hand to me.

Putin's aims are simple to understand. It has little to do with NATO expansion or petroleum reserves, except tangentially. He imagines himself as the savior of the Russian Empire. He wants to be Tsar.

The Soviet Union was the successor-in-interest of Tsarist Russia, and Putin was a true believer. He has said so on multiple occasions, including in his invasion speech. He views Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Belarus, Poland and the Baltic states as part of Russia.

He views the entire west as his rivals, thus he will do anything to undermine them. Ukraine is a particular store spot because they know him best, and they offer an alternative vision. He hates them for their freedoms, for their prosperity, and for their independence. This is a personified affront to him.

Yes, he covets Ukraine's resources, but only to bolster Russia's place in the world as a "great power". He hates NATO because it is effective. He will remain a menace as long as he is alive.

Yet another ‘they hate us for our freedoms!’ speech. Can’t believe someone would troy that tired line out for the umpteenth time.

If we don’t fight them over there we’ll have to fight them here, etc, etc..

Ukraine’s GDP is one of the few former Soviet eastern bloc countries to have shrunk since the collapse of the Soviet union. It’s been one of the most politically corrupt regions to boot. Neocons have never stopped their Cold War with Russia and wrecking Ukraine is simply collateral damage.


I see the neocon Jake Sullivan was implicated in the Russiagate hoax while the mother goddess and DNC had to pay fines for lying about commissioning that Steel Dossier out of campaign finances. Say, where’s that neocon now?

Who wants to talk about the Biden’s families corrupt ties to the Ukraine? Ain’t you a lawyer NWP? What’s it all mean? Why’d the corporate press unanimously squawk ‘classic Russian Disinformation’ when the NY post reported on it last November? Why are the corporates now admitting the laptop was real while memory holing their earlier false reporting of the story? Timings very interesting… What else could the corporate press be misleading citizens about?

Anybody?

I guess it’s only the red team that does corruption in blue team red team land… only the red teams press is phony and bias?

Reports from the foreign press are leaking out that there’s official NATO advisors holed up in the steel works of Mariupol with them their azov ‘freedom fighters’. If so, is Jeff gunna admit that Ukraine was a little pregnant after all?

My friend you are so persistent in thoroughly missing the point. We're going to fight them. Not because we want to, but because they won't stop. Count on it. The advantage to the United States is simply that US cities will not be the battleground burning.

My friend I’ve come to the conclusion your an Atlanticist spouting its propaganda. Similar propaganda that gets used in every run up to war.

Wars that are now viewed as mistakes but said to have ‘seemed like a good idea at the time’.

You were also a major Russophobia promoter with that Russiagate hoax IIRC. Why should your views of the current geopolitical crises have more merit than your promotion of Russiagate conspiracies?

Here’s a real one speaking truth in the EU parliament.



The man doing the ‘my friend your acting crazy’ faces is the MP Angel Dzhambazki from Bulgaria.

Here he is a day earlier leaving parliament:



I’m guessing who’s camp your supporting between the two. As for myself, Leftists don’t support Fascists.