Ok, you want the problem solving strategy session discussion. Fine. I’ll go along though having one makes little difference to this reality unfolding and the battle to win it. what’s real being waged right now in the western media.

Bearing in mind most everyone here is talking in Hollywood narratives, IMO, in one of the worst information environments. In short, which Putin are we talking about. Russiagaters ‘Vlad the election impaler’, neocons Vlad is Hitlerstalin and must be destroyed? Or is it Chicken Noodle News Putin, a bumbling incompetent when it comes to modern ware fare. Has suffered more loss from NATO’s proxy, Ukraine, than they did fighting Field Marshall Manstein in the same space of time during the Second World War? Or will we confine it to anything that’s verifiable and tied to reality? First hand diplomatic accounts, political agreements, etc..

How about the third choice of your framed 3 choices? What did Putin publicly state to the world on the eve of invasion?

Knowing what someone wants should be understood before you can have an opinion?

Last edited by chunkstyle; 04/13/22 03:51 PM.