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Originally Posted by logtroll
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Up until a couple of weeks ago, two groups agreed that Russia is the real victim in all of this: The extreme Right (Trumpers) and the extreme Left.
Is Chunks really saying that Russia is the victim here? That's the way it looks, but he's being awfully coy about saying it plainly.

I wonder why he doesn't just say it? Myself, I can't get my mind around what could justify invading another country and blowing the shiit out of everything, including civilians, schools, apartment buildings, hospitals, etc., even if if that country did it to you first.

And somehow the U.S. forced Putin to do this? So we could get in a war with Russia? It's been a month and a half, what're we waiting for if that was the objective?

Is there a Leftist Q-Anon?

I never mentioned him, but allow me to say that the amazing part about the whole steaming pile of drivel is that, not knowing who is speaking, I couldn't tell if it's coming from the far right or far left. The Venn diagram is now a perfect circle.

As for a "leftist" version of Qanon, take a look at what passes for "the wellness community" today.
No, not the size, reach and power, just the foundational values, which have always bordered on cringeworthy.
It was originally the wellness morons who started the whole chemtrails/HAARP/5G extravaganza and it was the wellness community who were FIRST-FIRST-FIRST! with vaccine hysteria, long before COVID.

Should we try for a Democratic Party version of Trump?
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Meh, liberal Russiagaters always despise being challenged from the left. I believe it insults their vanity.

How come you Russiagaters stopped talking about it as soon as team blue won the presidency? Hate to think you were making it all up…

Did the walls close in? Have the other shoes dropped? All that huffing and puffing dropped like a hot rock. Hmmm…

Smelled phoney to me then. Even more now. Same people too!

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What’s a Russiagater? I don’t know the secret code words.


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Originally Posted by logtroll
What’s a Russiagater? I don’t know the secret code words.

Again, extreme Right and extreme Left both say that Trump was NOT guilty of "collusion with Russia", or at least that's what I THINK it's about.
I find the catch-phrase slinging confusing as well.
For instance, what's the Voldemort nonsense about? I watched Hairy Plopper one time with the kids and barely remember it.
Am I being accused of casting Putin as Voldemort?
Putin's not Voldemort, he's Putin...he doesn't NEED an alternate avatar anymore than "Joe Steel" (Stalin) did.

Did Voldemort try to declare war on the entire free world or something?
Does Voldemort hate democracy?
PS: I'm still looking for the MILLIONS OF NAZIS in Ukraine and so far I just see a bunch of young and strong knuckleheads who
were probably impressed by the Hugo Boss uniforms and the scary looking tattoos.

Here, in OUR military, they seem a lot more serious about playing Nazi.
But I could be wrong, perhaps the Azov wing of Ukraine's military is indeed rife with a few thousand misguided knuckleheads who have
yet to get the memo.

But they don't look like twenty year old college coeds or eighty year old grandmothers, which is what's littering the streets of Bucha today,
and not a single Nazi tat on any of them so far.


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I think it might be a ‘woke’ thing, but I don’t really know what that is, either.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Meh, liberal Russiagaters always despise being challenged from the left. I believe it insults their vanity.

No, this insults our vanity.


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Originally Posted by logtroll
I think it might be a ‘woke’ thing, but I don’t really know what that is, either.

The term "woke" is an alternate for "enlightened".
Of course, the moment you claim enlightenment be advised that all manner of folks emerge from the woodwork claiming they too are enlightened.

Most of the people screeching their heads off about "woke" are the ones who USED to call liberals sheep, while outdoing them at behaving like sheep, which of course isn't surprising.
Once again that Venn diagram is in danger of becoming a circle...can't tell who is attacking because it sounds like it could be either extreme Left or extreme Right.

We're someone's sheep, I guess, but we're woke sheep?


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Originally Posted by logtroll
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Up until a couple of weeks ago, two groups agreed that Russia is the real victim in all of this: The extreme Right (Trumpers) and the extreme Left.
Is Chunks really saying that Russia is the victim here? That's the way it looks, but he's being awfully coy about saying it plainly.

I wonder why he doesn't just say it? Myself, I can't get my mind around what could justify invading another country and blowing the shiit out of everything, including civilians, schools, apartment buildings, hospitals, etc., even if if that country did it to you first.

And somehow the U.S. forced Putin to do this? So we could get in a war with Russia? It's been a month and a half, what're we waiting for if that was the objective?

Is there a Leftist Q-Anon?

You have a bad habit of speaking for others. Do me a favor and speak for yourself if you would please.

Here’s a lazy search result for ‘Ukraine’ ‘shelling’ ‘Donbas’:

From UN report 2015- Close to 8,000 people killed in eastern Ukraine, says UN human rights report

You say you can’t find any information of the shelling of civilians? Huh… odd…

You seem to have difficulty with events leading up to the civil war in the Ukraine and the subsequent military intervention (I’ll use the US parlance of invasion here). That’s ok Logs. Everyone has there strong suits. Yours may be biochar. We’re all different.

So if there’s ever a hostile government on our border, shelling communities aligned with us politically and killing thousands from that shelling all the while the hostile party would be trying to join a military organization hostile to our country you’d be ok with that. Uh huh… sure…

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Originally Posted by chunkstyleYou say you can’t find any information of the shelling of civilians? Huh… odd…

You seem to have difficulty with events leading up to the civil war in the Ukraine and the subsequent military intervention. [/quote
[quote]Since the conflict began in eastern Ukraine in mid-April 2014, a total of at least 7,962 people – including Ukrainian armed forces, civilians and members of the armed groups – have been killed, and at least 17,811 injured, the High Commissioner said, citing the latest figures available.

The document further underlines that “the situation in Ukraine continued to be marred by ongoing armed hostilities in some areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions reportedly fuelled by the presence and continuing influx of foreign fighters and sophisticated weapons and ammunition from the Russian Federation.”

It also flags “concern that the Russian Federation has continued to send white-truck convoys without the full consent or inspection of Ukraine, and their exact destination and content could not be verified.”
Russia in the Donbas region fomenting war and killing Ukrainians. Being "provoked" (your term) into invading Ukraine with maximum military force and devastation, by the U.S., no less.

Sounds reasonable... if you are fukking insane.


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Kyiv sank 'Moscow' and the Russians are furious. In response to the sinking of the warship 'Moskva,' state TV pundits and hosts propose bombing Kyiv, destroying Ukraine's railways and making it impossible for any world leaders to visit in the future.

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Impossible to visit in the future...I may be dumb but I think that means something about an environment dangerous to human life altogether.


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