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Since Trump-appointed judges are freeing kidnappers these days, I suspect Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is going to tell Michigan police they need to have shoot-outs when they go to arrest people for such things. If judges are not willing to convict kidnappers just because their plot was politically-motivated, then I guess the police need to serve as judge, jury, and executioner.
No problem for the police: Nothing happens to police when they shoot anybody, even if it's an innocent bystander or a child in a car driving away. All they need is the flimsiest excuse, and out the courtroom door they go. Or never even get to court. Just a paid vacation while the case gets "investigated". As a Michigander watching this action, and as a father whose son was a chef at the restaurant a stones throw away from the bridge to be blown up in Elk Rapids MI, I was saddened, yet not surprised by the result of the Whitmer plot trial. I’ve sat on the patio of that restaurant & watched boats come & go under that bridge flying Trump flags and blaring their version of Foxual facts. Those people will never go away…truly, I believe never. In a society as politically divided as I have ever seen, I wonder how rare it will be to find a person or a group unanimously guilty of a crime with a political backstory. A jury, it seems, will always have participants more or less intentional seated to lean to one side or the other. Facts, and factual use of decision making, as been a casualty of the Trump era. Mandating jurors rely on facts alone seems damn near impossible. Today a 34 year old Trump appointed judge got rid of the federal mandate for wearing masks on public transportation. In my van, since I am in charge, we are wearing them until May 3rd.
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NW Ponderer
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06/17/22 03:43 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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Greger
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06/17/22 03:57 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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perotista
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06/17/22 04:18 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/18/22 04:24 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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jgw
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06/18/22 04:59 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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perotista
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06/18/22 05:28 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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perotista
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06/18/22 05:57 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/18/22 07:03 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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Greger
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06/18/22 07:47 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/18/22 07:50 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/18/22 07:54 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/18/22 07:57 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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Greger
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06/19/22 03:54 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/19/22 04:07 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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perotista
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06/19/22 08:45 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/19/22 10:45 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/19/22 10:50 PM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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perotista
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06/20/22 12:05 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/20/22 02:01 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pondering_it_all
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06/20/22 04:56 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/20/22 09:48 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/20/22 10:06 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pondering_it_all
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06/21/22 02:03 AM
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Re: New Server, New Round Table for Spring 2022
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pdx rick
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06/21/22 02:29 AM
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