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Originally Posted by Greger
A lot of us wanted to see Trump fall and we don't have much to go on besides the daily news. Perhaps LaFigaro had the truth of it, or some other Ueropean newsroom knew that Trump was innocent and would never collude with Russia because he...

Was too rich, too honest, too patriotic to ever do anything like that!

They probably also reported the truth about Junior Biden's laptop.

And they have been wisely against NATO for over a century. I even have reports that if LePen wins then France will give itself up to annexation by Russia!

But alas...corn has reached a decade-high price and the end of the world is nigh!

Repent! Throw down your red and blue hats! And accept the gospel of Chunkstyle if you hope to be saved from the ravages of the American political system and be raptured into...

What is it exactly, you want us do Chunks...? We just watch the goings-on and react the same as you do.

But it appears your reactions are the only right reactions and ours are twaddle not worth mentioning.
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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
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Jeff was a big enthusiast of the whole Russia-Trump collusion fairy tales at the time, IIRC. His semantics in his previous post above don’t hold much water to his past Russian Trump collusion posting

I never mentioned collusion, because collusion isn't something that can be addressed by the law.
In fact I think several of us, including folks much smarter than me, arrived at the realization that you can't charge a president with collusion because collusion is not technically a crime.

If you're referring to Mueller's investigation, that's a horse of a different color, but you seem to be obsessed with something called Russiagate.
Trump was playing the Putin playbook to the hilt. Putin wanted NATO fractured, he almost got what he wanted, and President Trump was eager to give it to him.
Imagine where "s*** would be right now" along the banks of the Dniper River if NATO had been gutted.

If you're okay with all of that plus much more happening in Europe, just say so.
If you're okay with Putin calling the shots in Washington, just say so.
You won't have a lot of friends among the independents, or the liberals, or even sane conservatives.
But as I am guessing, you don't want any of those kinds of friends.

And Murrika is crawling with them, we're up to the gills with those kinds.

I can't do a damn thing to force Congress to finish up and figure out if they can charge Trump with a crime.
If they don't, count on him finishing the job he started, you know, the one where you wind up with some rather odd friends?
If they do, and they put Trump and co in prison, your life will go on, I promise you.
If they do, and Trump wins, you will find out very quickly who your friends really are in this world.

But in any case, I don't hold office, I'm not a billionaire so I don't own any politicians, and I don't wear a badge.
All I can do is vote.

Seems you're feeling better about the folks who want to put a muzzle on voting, because you somehow proved Russiagate didn't exist?
Is that what you're backing now?
I'm having a tough time deciphering, and an even tougher time understanding why I am the bad guy, but I guess I can't make everyone happy.

Oh wait...was Russiagate that thing where people accused Trump and Putin of conspiring to put some large heavy thumbs on the voting machines?
There isn't much bang for the buck in that. What you really have to do is to [censored] up the average person's understanding of what a free and fair election really
is and build a monster fake narrative about Democrats committing crimes with emails and then pay a bunch of foreign agents to help you with your stories
so that a compliant media will be compelled to give it as much airtime as possible...

But all of that is okay?


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"De facto we're starting to wage war against NATO countries. We'll be grinding up NATO's war machine as well as citizens of NATO countries," Solovyov said.
"Not only will Ukraine have to be denazified; the war against Europe and the world is developing a more specific outline, which means we'll have to act differently, and to act much more harshly," Solovyov concluded in the clip shared on Twitter by former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt, now co-chair of the European Council on Foreign Relations.


Russian State TV Talks of 'War Against Europe and the World' After Ukraine


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
"De facto we're starting to wage war against NATO countries. We'll be grinding up NATO's war machine as well as citizens of NATO countries," Solovyov said.
"Not only will Ukraine have to be denazified; the war against Europe and the world is developing a more specific outline, which means we'll have to act differently, and to act much more harshly," Solovyov concluded in the clip shared on Twitter by former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt, now co-chair of the European Council on Foreign Relations.


Russian State TV Talks of 'War Against Europe and the World' After Ukraine
I was just updating the list of probable justifications for Russia's systematic and brutal destruction of Ukraine - here's what I've got (in no particular order):

1) de-Nazification
2) push-back against constant bullying by NATO (particularly the U.S.)
3) empire re-building
4) protecting recently annexed territory (Crimea) from Ukraine (from whom it was annexed - need a list of justifications for that, too)
5) U.N. Article 51 (also used by the U.S. to justify invading Afghanistan and Iraq)
6) it would be a cake walk
7) need a "land bridge" to Crimea
8) Biden is a wuss
9) corn
10) enhance the price of Russian petroleum
11) Putin just wanted to
12) world domination
13) Ukrainians are sub-human
14) NATO rejected Putin's reasonable demands
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Did I miss anything?

Looks like a solid case for wanton destruction of a nation and its people is warranted... time to give in and negotiate for peace?


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That's a really good list alright.
Not much else I can say or do except shrug.
How DOES this finally end?

I don't know if you remember Vaughan Meador's comedy LP "The First Family", but it came out during the JFK "Camelot" admin.
One clip involves a diplomatic lunch ,and Kruschev says;
"Oh...you don't have to order special for me.
I'll have a bite of everybody else's."

Some things never change.



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I don't see a single swastika or any other national socialist or neo-nazi symbols anywhere, do you?
And we don't run around arresting people for carrying that stuff or even a blank piece of paper.
So if they had em they woulda brung em.

https://twitter.com/InnaSovsun/status/1518204531435257858

Putin's claim of "de-nazification" is and always was a bald faced lie, and almost a quarter of USA doesn't realize it, nor would they listen if told.
And even if there is a handful of people in the battalion they're dwarfed by the ocean of them in our own law enforcement and our own military.

Putin's claim, and all the yammering by his supporters, is a lie.


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Oh by the way...


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Russians force Ukrainian farmers to start sowing, demanding that they hand over all the harvest.

In the Kherson Oblast, an elevator was robbed and all grain was taken to the occupied Crimea

Basically, that's how Holodomor started in the 1930s

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517845722820919296


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UKRAINE: FASCISTS GET 2.5% of the vote
FRANCE: Fascists get 42% of the vote.

Yeah, I think it is safe to say that "the Nazi problem" in Ukraine
is 4000% astroturfed BULLSH*T.


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I think we have way more Nazis here in the US, compared to Ukraine!


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
I think we have way more Nazis here in the US, compared to Ukraine!

I'm quite sure the number of nazis in Anaheim, California dwarfs Ukraine.
For some reason the nazis have always been fond of that town..
I used to wonder if it was because of Disney's presence but they're not welcome there.
So I guess it's in spite of.


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