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Originally Posted by Greger
I only brought up Palin to point out the sadness and absurdity we will see come November.

Sadness and absurdity.

The signs are all around us. The crazy on full display.

Absurdities the level of which will very likely lead to atrocities.
Mid-terms will be witness to a slew of NEW "January 6th" insurrections all over the country.
I bet money Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are prepping right now.


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I bet money Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are prepping right now.

I bet this is just the midterms and things will go like they usually go. Apocalyptic predictions usually fall flat in the face of reality.

It sounds to me like you want all this horrible crap to come true. There is sadness and absurdity enough in the future without making up far-fetched scenarios and imagining doomsday is just around the corner.

But if that's what makes you happy, by all means, imagine the most horrible outcomes you can!

I dunno what the Boy Keepers are prepping for but I'm prepping for ten comfortable years at the government teat. Whether the government is lead by the Dems or Reeps doesn't really matter much. We survived Obama, We survived Trump. We will survive Biden. And we will survive whoever might come next.

I will continue to cheer blue team on knowing that they won't win every game and that's okay.

It's not the end of the world.


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With Biden at a very low 40% overall approval rating, 36% approval on his handling of the economy, 65% of all Americans thinking this country is headed in the wrong direction, the Democratic congressional critters approval at a low 30%, one would expect a gigantic red wave, 40-60 house pickup, 5 or 6 senate seats by the GOP. By historical standards, that is what should happen. But the numbers refute that, at least as of today. There’s something else in play here. You can be the judge of what that is.

Going by the data I have, a net gain of 12-15 seats in the house is the most likely. A senate that may be 51-49 for either party or remain 50-50. This isn’t normal considering Biden’s and the Democratic controlled congress abysmal approval and favorable ratings. Nothing has been normal since the arrival of Trump. Historical standards, wisdom, norms have been tossed out the window.

What happens if the GOP takes back the house? Nothing. Government will be divided, nothing gets accomplished. Each party gets nothing, zero of that it wants, agenda wise. There’ll be no more 1-6 hearings, but the public at large so far has ignored them anyway. The GOP controlled house will investigate Hunter Biden and may even impeach Biden. The house has cart blanche on determining what is or isn’t an impeachable offense. No big thing in the overall scheme of things if the GOP retakes the house.

The senate may be another matter. A Republican controlled senate could stop all of Biden’s nominations to whatever office. Judicial, cabinet, government agencies, etc. We’ll survive nicely, we already have survived four years of Trump. Yeah, we’ll survive two years of nothing, unless we get involved in a nuclear war or Yellowstone erupts or a massive comet or asteroid hits the earth. Two years of GOP controlled house is nothing compared to all of that. Even if the Republicans take both chambers of congress, 2024 is right around the corner. Nothing remains the same, 2024 could be the Democrats golden opportunity regardless of what happens in 2022. For me, what happens, happens. I’ve no control over it, can’t do a thing about it, so I don’t worry about it.

I do feel, think, losing 15 house seats considering Biden and company’s very low approval numbers should be considered a big moral victory, especially if the Dems retain control of the senate. Even if they don’t, losing only 15 house seats and perhaps one or two in the senate, that I would consider a victory for the Democrats. Compare the loss of 54 house and 9 senate seats under Bill Clinton, 1994 and 63 house and 8 senate under Obama 2010 when both presidents had the same low approval numbers. I think one needs to be realistic, get a grip on the political reality as it really is.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Originally Posted by perotista
I do feel, think, losing 15 house seats considering Biden and company’s very low approval numbers should be considered a big moral victory, especially if the Dems retain control of the senate. Even if they don’t, losing only 15 house seats and perhaps one or two in the senate, that I would consider a victory for the Democrats. Compare the loss of 54 house and 9 senate seats under Bill Clinton, 1994 and 63 house and 8 senate under Obama 2010 when both presidents had the same low approval numbers. I think one needs to be realistic, get a grip on the political reality as it really is.

Sorry but I respectfully suggest that you're overlooking the real actual hot shooting war prep that's been going on over on the GOP side. Every respected expert on failing democracies has expressed concern that we are millimeters away from losing it altogether.

This is 1934.


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Biden and company have 6 months to turn things around. I doubt they’ll be able to, but who knows? Even the Democrats aren’t campaigning on the danger to democracy.

Democrats Fear for Democracy. Why Aren't They Running on It in 2022?

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-fe...rk=fb&tsrc=fb&fr=sycsrp_catchall

Perhaps with the rising costs of putting food on the table, taking care of family, being able to put gas in your car to drive to work has become more important today to many Americans. Bread and butter issues usually win the day over some obscure dooms day prophesy which if happens will happen in the future while most are worried about today. Perhaps if Biden and company started paying attention to inflation, rising prices, empty store shelves a year ago instead of last month, they might be better off. No one knows since it never happened.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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This is 1934.

No, this is 2022.


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This is 1934.

No, this is 2022.

And history still has a habit of occasionally repeating itself.


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Originally Posted by Greger
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I bet money Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are prepping right now.

I bet this is just the midterms and things will go like they usually go. Apocalyptic predictions usually fall flat in the face of reality.

It sounds to me like you want all this horrible crap to come true. There is sadness and absurdity enough in the future without making up far-fetched scenarios and imagining doomsday is just around the corner.

But if that's what makes you happy, by all means, imagine the most horrible outcomes you can!

I dunno what the Boy Keepers are prepping for but I'm prepping for ten comfortable years at the government teat. Whether the government is lead by the Dems or Reeps doesn't really matter much. We survived Obama, We survived Trump. We will survive Biden. And we will survive whoever might come next.

I will continue to cheer blue team on knowing that they won't win every game and that's okay.

It's not the end of the world.

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----EXCLUSIVE: Last night, I asked Trump AG Bill Barr if he had spoken w/ coup memo author John Eastman. He dodged the Q. He did say that Eastman's idea that Pence could change things was "crazy," but that "there's nothing inherently wrong w/ naming an alternative slate of electors."

https://twitter.com/lawindsor/status/1519036868620218368

So, suppose at some point in the near future an "alternate slate of electors" DOES get greased and another election actually DOES get overturned, and the winner takes his majority in both chambers (brought to you by the partisan election integrity folks) and announces an end to your benefits.

Saying I WANT all this to happen? That's nonsense.
I have a disabled wife and two disabled kids...yeah I think that's on the list of things I can do without.
But I can't do without what's keeping us alive, a tiny portion of which comes from my faltering income and the lion's share from Karen's VA disability.

Yeah right, like I really WANT this to happen.
Come on, man...be real.


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So, suppose at some point in the near future an "alternate slate of electors" DOES get greased and another election actually DOES get overturned

I imagine that if it's Dems doing it you'll be 100% behind it. If it's Reeps 100% against it.

Suppose it doesn't happen at all? Just like it's never happened before.

I've got plenty to be scared and angry about without making up unlikely sh*t and telling everybody else they need to be angry and afraid about things I've made up that might or might not happen someday...

Life is too short for that.


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So, suppose at some point in the near future an "alternate slate of electors" DOES get greased and another election actually DOES get overturned

I imagine that if it's Dems doing it you'll be 100% behind it. If it's Reeps 100% against it.
Why would you imagine that?
Wait, don't answer yet...is it because you assume that I share the same Jerry Springer style tribalism as the Trumpers?
I cordially invite you to put that theory of yours regarding my tribalism to any test you wish, because I'd be more than happy to wager that I can bust that theory.

And I really do not look forward to a day where that winds up being the only tool left to use, because at that point we really ARE indeed looking at the justification that all the accelerationists dream of...namely burning it all down to ashes.

When I mentioned the marketplace of ideas, I really meant it.


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