Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 U.S. House Select Committee on the J6 Attack

Frankly, just because I can imagine something doesn't make it any more likely to happen.

And I try not to let my imagination run wild.

Socialism is all about a classless society with equal opportunity for all.
Fascism on the other hand, is all ABOUT class and caste, and as you said, the ELITES who are "clearly deserving of all the wealth and power" and when you add the religious element to it, the elites are defended by the Dominionist Christian notion that "the poor ARE poor because they are wicked" and as all Dominionists know, "God smiles upon the wealthy".
Prosperity is "God's reward" to them for being sufficiently committed to dominion.

I don't let mine run wild either. I just see and hear the plans to "dismantle the administrative state" and listen to the very words these people "speak from their mouths".

If they succeed, that is the end of pretty much anything and everything keeping my family afloat.
Fifteen years ago it didn't frighten me (or piss me off) as much because I was making plenty of money and Daryl and Karen's health were such that I could get on larger assignments that sometimes took me out of town for a couple of weeks or even a month sometimes.
I was much healthier and much more productive.

Losing benefits thanks to some radicalized agenda to cut the beating heart out of the social contract would have been a shot across the bow but not a guaranteed sudden dead stop in the middle of a freeway like it is now that all three of us are much older and sicker.

Make no mistake about it, we are, in the eyes of the Trumpers, to be disposed of as quickly as possible. They've proven beyond all doubt that even disabled veterans don't deserve jack squat.

My full time job for the last four years has been CAREGIVER*, (unpaid) to both the wife and son. If the REVENGE MOB gets put in power, guarantee you we will be on the chopping block.

I'm disabled too, and also don't get paid to take care of myself. But I take very good care of myself anyway.

I'm unaware of any Republican plans to snatch benefits from Veterans and the disabled.

We've also seen and heard plans to defund the police. That's probably not happening either.

The other night my wife (who watching a LOT more news than I) said that it looked like the Republicans are going after Social Security and Medicare. This amused me a bit. I remember when Trump actually wanted to get into both of those and steal all the money to build his walls. That was actually right in his last budget! The really strange thing, to me, was that the Dems had little or nothing to say about that one.

Both my wife, and myself, at the time was wondering what was going on. From the people they show when Trump has a 'meeting' they all seem to be folks who use both Social Security and Medicare and not a one of them, apparently, thought that getting rid of those was a problem.

Just saying...................

---That's because they think THEY will get to keep THEIRS and only "the wrong people" will be cut off.

No no, you don't understand yet...there's a VA program for spouses or other family members who care for a 100% service connected disabled vet. It's not much, a small stipend, but since for us every bit counts, and since I can't go anywhere for more than a couple of hours at a time, that limits the work I can do, plus if she becomes chronically ill, which happens from time to time, and I then have to stop and drop everything.

When Trump's gang of three attempted to take over running the VA, the first thing that they wanted to do was start cutting pensions, disability and other bennies.

That was the Mar-A-Lago Three we were reading about back around 2017-2018-2019.
If you are unaware it may be because you're not a disabled vet.
Believe me, I am tuned into ALL the chatter re vet bennies.

Missing out on a small stipend is a far cry from...


Trump is no longer president. He will never be president again. What his followers want or wanted back then, or even might want in the future is really not an issue anymore.

Ron DeSantis is a veteran and you can bet your ass he will take better care of vets than Trump ever did. He will take better care of vets than any anti-military Democrat too.

You want vet benefits...elect DeSantis.

Not talking specifically about Trump, for the simple reason that MAGA no longer needs him in order to BE "MAGA".
And DeSantis' military record doesn't mean sh*t because the man is straight up mobbed up fascist to the marrow of his bones, so just as with Trump, loyalty is everything, as he has proven already beyond measure.

Thus, VA would still risk privatization and it follows that, just as with Disney, if you don't kow-tow, you will be stripped Disney style.

Anti-military Democrats...I've heard them speak, seen them march, endured their blather, and yet when I try to think of an anti-military prezzie I come up blank.

It doesn't really work if one attempts to portray the military in a binary fashion i.e. "Republicans love military vs Democrats hate military".

In my 21 years on active duty and another 26 working for the army as a civilian, no president was anti-military in my view. The possible exception is Trump, but he came after I retired. That doesn’t mean the perception of the Democratic Party being anti-military doesn’t exist. It still exists today big time with veterans. You must go back to Vietnam for its roots. You had protesters galore which the leaders of the Democratic Party embraced. You had presidential candidates like Humphrey in 68 and McGovern in 72 campaign on an anti-war and peace platform. That was followed up with huge drawdowns of the military by Jimmy Carter and later Bill Clinton. You also have Democrats in congress always trying to cut the defense budget. Reagan followed Carter and rebuilt the military while G.W. Bush did the same after Bill Clinton to a lesser extent. That perception is still with us today. The military, veterans vote overwhelmingly Republican. The best I can determine using old exit polls is LBJ in 1964 was the last Democratic presidential candidate to win the veterans vote. In 2020 veterans voted for Trump 54-44 which was a lot better than 2016 when vets went to Trump 61-35 over Hillary.

This could be changing; Trump wasn’t pro-military. The only thing Trump was pro on was himself. Then too you have the Democrats taking the lead with the war in the Ukraine, becoming the war hawks instead of the peace doves which they have been known among vets since Vietnam. Keep in mind I’m talking in general here, most but not all. We’ll see how the midterms turn out, those exit polls should tell us whether or not vets are indeed becoming more Democratic. I’ll leave you with these numbers.
2016 vets went to Trump, republican by 26 points, 61-35. Clinton won the popular vote 48-46 nationwide
2018 vets went to Republican congressional candidates by 17 points, 58-41. The nation voted 54-44 Democratic.
2020 vets went to Trump, republican by 10 points, 54-44. Biden won the popular vote 51-47 nationwide

Perhaps Trump may be the cause of overturning, changing over 50 years of veterans voting habits. Time will tell. A good candidate like Tammy Duckworth in 2024 could swing the vets finally back into the Democratic column. Who knows? Time will provide the answer.