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Originally Posted by perotista
Today, I'm focused on the midterms.

Oh there shouldn't be any confusion. If Roe is overturned, there will be no red wave. It will be a blue wave because of Roe, because of J6 hearings this summer, becasue of COVID deaths among the unvaxxed who are mostly GOP, and because the GOP has no platform other than to own the Libs.


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In regards to the midterms, I think you're right. It's mostly baked in. But it's a great hook to get out the democratic base and get a few left leaners up off the independent couches as well.

Not enough to "win the election" and keep the House but another factor keeping the Democratic losses to a minimum. Further down the road we'll see deaths from coathanger abortions, mothers and babies dying together, horribly deformed infants forced to live as permanent wards of the state, eleven year olds giving birth to their father's children...

There's a pretty good reason that Roe passed the first time. And it's not just because some people love killing babies.


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pdx, what you don’t understand is the party out of power doesn’t have to stand for anything, say anything, have a platform, do anything. They just must be an alternative to the party in power. That’s our two-party system. Don’t like the party in power, don’t like what they’re doing or not doing, angry at them, you’re only alternative is to vote for the party out of power. Quite simple really. Don’t read too much into something that is basically just one sentence long. It’s the KISS principle. No need to bring in quantum physics to an election when simple one plus one math will do nicely.

Just keep in mind what is hot today, may not be hot in a week or a month.


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This just in today, check out questions 86A through 86L and you’ll see people all over the place on their view of abortion, when, under what circumstance etc. Questions 84, 85 and 87-94 also deal with abortion.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/vbhhojqsfe/econTabReport.pdf


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Originally Posted by perotista
Today, I'm focused on the midterms.

Oh there shouldn't be any confusion. If Roe is overturned, there will be no red wave. It will be a blue wave because of Roe, because of J6 hearings this summer, becasue of COVID deaths among the unvaxxed who are mostly GOP, and because the GOP has no platform other than to own the Libs.

Would you care to place a small wager concerning the midterms?

I don't think we'll see Roe overturned before November, so if you're hoping for it to save Democrats from their unpopularity I think you'll be disappointed. Ditto for J6, deaths among Republican voters and your imagined lack of a political platform.

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Let’s go big Greger…$10

Pero: what alternative? Just simply existing?


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Originally Posted by Greger
I don't think we'll see Roe overturned before November,
June/July, actually. "Court sessions continue until late June or early July." per the Supreme Court's webpage.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Let’s go big Greger…$10

Pero: what alternative? Just simply existing?
Yes, simply existing. You have two choices, the party in power and the party out of power. The party out of power is the alternative to the party in power. If you mad at one, in this case the party in power or think it isn’t doing what it’s supposed to or doing the wrong things, having the wrong priorities, ignoring the issue you think is most important, etc. Your only option is to vote for the other party, the party out of power.

You may dislike or even border on hate of both parties, so you vote against the party you dislike the most or vote for the party you hate the least. If you’re satisfied with the way things are going, you vote for the party in power. If you are dissatisfied with how things are, you vote for the party out of power. All the party out of power must be is an alternative to the party in power. Rather simple.


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Originally Posted by perotista
You may dislike or even border on hate of both parties, so you vote against the party you dislike the most or vote for the party you hate the least. If you’re satisfied with the way things are going, you vote for the party in power. If you are dissatisfied with how things are, you vote for the party out of power. All the party out of power must be is an alternative to the party in power. Rather simple.
Unfortunately, also rather simplistic - but that reflects the bulk of the electorate. They don't have the capacity to "think big", and that allows them to be manipulated by those with more deviousness and brazenness.


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rather simplistic - but that reflects the bulk of the electorate

It's the bulk of the electorate we're talking about. We already know how Democrats and Republicans will vote. The 40% or so who don't even bother to pick a party are the ones who will decide the election.


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