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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
...tassociated economic slowdowns followed by rapid uptick in demand as the pandemic got dealt with, and the ongoing war..
Many understand that the pandemic allowed people to work offsite and work from home. This lead to a lot of folks leaving cities and moving to suburban and rural areas where housing was less expensive. Another area that demand exceeded supply was the home remodeling industry. Because people were home and not at work, people began making changes to their homes adding new rooms, changing the interiors of their homes all while installers had to safely social distance while working in the homes.

The home remodeling industry is still crazy busy because people had to wait 6, 9, 12 months before the contractor could even begin to work on their project.


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you know this, so does Perotista.

Yes I do, and so does he.

But that doesn't change the dynamics of the way people vote.

There seems to be some feeling that conservatives are too stupid to make their own decisions. That voters in general are ill-informed and uninterested.

I think that's BS

Everyone has a phone in their face 24/7. They get a ding every time anything happens in the world.

SCOTUS decisions, storm warnings, amber alerts, facebook notifications, twitter, insta, truth social, mass shootings, celebrity trials and divorces, sports scores, you fecking name it.

Everybody knows what's going on. Everywhere, all the time.

They look at the same evidence as you, but they come to different conclusions. Based on their own beliefs and ideology.

If everybody agreed, there would be no need for democracy. If you force everybody to agree, it isn't democracy.


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Originally Posted by Greger
There seems to be some feeling that conservatives are too stupid to make their own decisions.
That's where Fox News steps in and tells Conservatives how to think and what to do.

My evidence: Most Conservatives think that J6 was a tourist site-seeing event and not the insurrection that it was. crazy


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Most Conservatives think that J6 was a tourist site-seeing event and not the insurrection that it was.

No, most of them know exactly what it was.

It was the biggest public display of political stupidity in the history of our nation.

It was painful and it was embarrassing. It's easier for them to just pretend it didn't happen. In a few years, it will all blow over...


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In a statement Friday, President Joe Biden’s attorney general, Merrick Garland, said the Justice Department will protect abortion providers and those seeking abortions in states where it is legal and will “work with other arms of the federal government that seek to use their lawful authorities to protect and preserve access to reproductive care.”

“In particular, the FDA has approved the use of the medication mifepristone,” he added. “States may not ban mifepristone based on disagreement with the FDA’s expert judgment about its safety and efficacy.”

South Dakota Governor Claims She'll Ban Abortion Pills Without Punishing Women

Of course, South Dakota authorities are going to have an impossible task to intercept all mail (violation of federal law), and then prosecute prescribing doctors who are not in South Dakota. Or maybe not even in the US! Most states will refuse to extradite citizens who do things that are not crimes in that state.

As for the very small number of women who need medical care after a pill-induced abortion, It's impossible to tell one from a natural miscarriage, and about 20% of pregnancies end in a natural miscarriage.


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Most Conservatives think that J6 was a tourist site-seeing event and not the insurrection that it was.

No, most of them know exactly what it was...

Citation please. smile


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It was painful and it was embarrassing. It's easier for them to just pretend it didn't happen. In a few years, it will all blow over...
History books won't let what Righwingers did on J6 "blow over." smile


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
This should get interesting:

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In a statement Friday, President Joe Biden’s attorney general, Merrick Garland, said the Justice Department will protect abortion providers and those seeking abortions in states where it is legal and will “work with other arms of the federal government that seek to use their lawful authorities to protect and preserve access to reproductive care.”

“In particular, the FDA has approved the use of the medication mifepristone,” he added. “States may not ban mifepristone based on disagreement with the FDA’s expert judgment about its safety and efficacy.”

South Dakota Governor Claims She'll Ban Abortion Pills Without Punishing Women

Of course, South Dakota authorities are going to have an impossible task to intercept all mail (violation of federal law)
Kristi Noem freely admits to wanting to run a Fascist state. Quelle surprise. Kristi is Rwing after all. crazy


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History books won't let what Righwingers did on J6 "blow over."

Nobody much reads the history books, nor cares about the dusty past. They're too busy trying to pay the bills that are due tomorrow.

J6 will go down in history as the single, most stupid bit of partisan f*ckery to ever occur. The 1605 Gunpowder Plot(Guy Fawkes) being possibly more ill-fated and stupid.

I just don't feel like they'll be burning effigies of Donald Trump 400 years from now.

The people involved will get locked up or not. In a few election cycles, nobody will much be talking about it so yes...

Like it or not it will blow over and new shiny things will catch your attention.


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This is interesting, from a left leaning web site, the Daily Beast.

Will Raging Liberals Cause an Anti-Democrat Backlash?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/raging-liberals-cause-anti-democrat-080102953.html

In other words, the Democrats could blow the advantage given them for these midterms by the SCOTUS overturning ROE. Will they? Time will tell.

I also have two polls from Democratic leaning polling firms since the overturning of ROE. One is the NPR/PBS/Marist polls which shows the Democrats leading in the generic congressional ballot by 7 points. But this same polling firm in a pre-SCOTUS overturning of ROE had the Democrats ahead by 5. The other was the Morning Consult/Politico poll, they have the Democrats up by 3, but in their pre-ROE poll, Morning Consult/Political had it even.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/

The thing to keep in mind is the average of all polls had the Republicans up by 2.3 points on 23 June, pre-Roe overturning, which you can see in the link above. There’s not enough data to draw any conclusions on this at this early time. But I would say, signs are that there is a slight movement toward the Democrats. Will it last? Again, only time will provide the answer.

The big question in all of this, will abortion or the overturning of ROE supersede inflation, rising prices in the minds of independents as the top issue they will decide who to vote for in November? We’ll have to wait and see. Pre-ROE overturning, independents ranked inflation as their top issue in determining their vote this November at 23%, abortion was at 4% among independents. This gives you numbers to watch.


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Will Raging Liberals Cause an Anti-Democrat Backlash?

I don't think we'll see the same violence as we do around racial issues, so no. While there might be some isolated incidents among militant democrats, I don't think we'll see the same level of sustained violence and civil disobedience we saw around the Floyd killing.

I think there was some small backlash around that, but it's ancient history and I'm not gonna Google it.


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