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Even though Fox News chose not to air the initial J6 hearing, instead broadcasting two hours of rebuttal to the hearings, in those two hours of broadcast, Fox News was willing to lose money ($4m in ad revenue), and go commercial-free to keep their viewers from flipping channels and accidentally learning information of the Rightwing attempt to overthrow American democracy.
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I thought its pretty interesting that the founder, and head of, the Proud Boys, is a Canadian citizen. That, I think, is pretty interesting. I wonder why the news channels seems to have missed that one (along with a few other things)
Oh, Liz Cheney has said she has the proof of her saying that a sitting congressman asked Trump for a pardon. I am beginning to wonder if the first public display of the House Select Committee is a setup for the Republicans to show their outrage at horrible things that the Democrats have said about their Kindly Christian political party (GOP). If they actually are doing that its gonna get real interesting!
I also wonder if Fox is going to show the rest given that it cost them real money to not show the first one.
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The are seven “Law and Order” GOP Senators/Representatives who asked for pardons. No Democrats.
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The are seven “Law and Order” GOP Senators/Representatives who asked for pardons. No Democrats. I'm not quite sure "Law and Order" Republicans asked for them. I use that tag for people like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney. IDGAF if seditionists pretend to call themselves something, it's simply not true.
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I'm not quite sure "Law and Order" Republicans asked for them. I use that tag for people like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney. 100% agree. The issue is that the GOP wants all GOP'ers to be considered "Law and Order." The GOP is infamous for alternative facts (up is down, down is up...don't believe your lying eyes) - ask Kellyanne CONway.
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Those who watched the live primetime 1-6 hearings are in. 25% of all adults watched either the whole thing or part of it. 40% of Democrats watched all or part, 16% of Republicans and 19% of independents. Interesting is that 22% of Democrats, 39% of Republicans, 34% of independent haven’t heard or seen a single thing on the primetime 1-6 hearings to this day. On those who plan on watching future 1-6 hearing, 51% of Democrats do, 16% of Republicans and 19% of independents. The total viewing audience who watch all or part of it was made up of 54% Democrats, 21% Republicans and 25% of Independents. I’m surprised that Democrats didn’t make up a larger share of those who watched, surprised that 21% of Republican watched, I figured that would be much lower. As for independents, I figured that would be around 20%. But we have a category among independents, those who lean Democratic, I imagine most of that 25% were them. Independents who lean Democratic. Did the 1-6 prime time hearings influence how folks plan on voting in November or if Trump should be prosecuted. I’ll address that tomorrow as I’m still receiving more data and tomorrow marks the end of the first week after the primetime hearings. https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/3jwspvzrht/econTabReport.pdf
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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As I done on the abortion draft leak, then with the mass school shootings, I’m going to do the same with the prime time public 1-6 hearings. You then can compare to see if the prime-time hearings change any minds on who folks plan on voting for come November. Having the hearing broadcast in prime time on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC is new and precedence setting. It’s never been done before. Watergate, Iran-Contra, impeachment hearings, the senate trials, all done during congressional normal working hours. Even Google couldn’t find any congressional hearing or investigation broadcast during prime time. What do I expect? I expect a bit of movement in the democrat’s direction at first, then once the primetime hearings are over, a return to pre-prime-time public hearings numbers. That’s the way these things usually playout. I still believe inflation, rising prices are the big boy in the room. But time will tell. Time always provides the answers. 8 June 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.5-42.5, Republican, 538 averages 45.2-42.8 Republican 16 June 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.3-42.8, Republican, 538 averages 44.9-42.3 Republican https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.htmlhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/The President’s overall job performance numbers. Will the prime-time 1-6 hearings influence it? I don’t think so. 8 June 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 40.7% approve, 54.0% disapprove 16 June 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 38.9% approve, 54.4% disapprove https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.htmlPerhaps the best way to look at this is the number of competitive, switchable, at risk house seats beginning 8 June 2022. 8 June – House 39 Democratic seats, 13 Republican seats fell into the at-risk category. A probable gain of 18-20 seats for the Republicans. Senate – 5 pure tossups, 3 democratic held seats, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, 2 Republican held seats, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. 1 lean Democratic seat, Democratic held New Hampshire, 1 lean Republican seat, Republican held North Carolina. 16 June – House 40 Democratic seats, 13 Republican seats fell into the at-risk category. A probable gain of 18-20 seats for the Republicans. Senate – 5 pure tossups, 3 democratic held seats, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, 2 Republican held seats, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. 1 lean Democratic seat, Democratic held New Hampshire, 1 lean Republican seat, Republican held North Carolina. One week after the primetime public 1-6 hearings, basically no change, no movement of the needle in the generic congressional ballot, President Biden’s overall job approval numbers or the at risk, switchable house seats nor the pure tossup senate seats. So far, it’s like the primetime hearings never happened. At least in respect to the midterm elections.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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As long as it's just chatter, it's not gonna move the needle.
All year long we've been watching the idiots involved in the riot go to jail. This is an extension of that which will see the election fraud conspirators justly charged for their election fraud fraud...
And ultimately Donald Trump.
That's when I expect Republicans will sit up and take notice.
Let's see if the needle moves then...
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People involved in the riot, that were there are going to jail. The FBI and DOJ have charged around 850 and have over 300 found guilty with more to come. This has been under the radar. Perhaps thanks to the 1-6 hearings. Now the higher ups, Trump, Giuliani, etc. haven’t been charged yet. But they weren’t physically inside the Capital as the ones charged and going to trial or already found guilty. From looking at the numbers, it’s Democrats who want Trump charged, convicted and sent to jail. They’re going to vote Democratic this midterm anyway. Republicans don’t want Trump charged, convicted and sent to jail. They’re going to vote Republican this midterm. Most independents look at Trump as old news, he’s gone, no longer president, no longer in charge with a lot of them scratching their heads wondering why the Democrats are so interested, fixated on Trump. But they don’t follow politics much, if any until an election nears. There’re no political junkies among them, perhaps except for you and me. They’re less to non-partisan, non-affiliated although some do lean toward one party or the other. Except for the leans, most independents wouldn’t care one way or the other if Trump is jailed or walks. As for republicans sitting up and taking notice if Trump is convicted of election fraud which is possible. I think that would add to their enthusiasm to get out this midterm and vote against the evil Democrats who had revenge in their hearts, a political vendetta against Trump from the get-go for defeating their Queen, Hillary Clinton. It may lessen the enthusiasm for Democrats to get out and vote, they have the presidency, now they have Trump in jail, they already won. Just a SWAG on my part. On enthusiasm for voting in the midterms, 47% of Republicans are more enthusiastic vs. 32% for the Democrats. https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/3jwspvzrht/econTabReport.pdf
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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the evil Democrats who had revenge in their hearts, a political vendetta against Trump You may not have noticed, but that is why all the witnesses in the hearing broadcasts so far have been Republicans! It's Republicans testifying about all of these crimes, not Democrats. The Democrats knew the hearings would be dismissed as partisan revenge otherwise.
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