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I’m sticking with my view that the avid pro-choicers have all become democrats over the last 50 years and the avid pro-lifers Republicans. Only 4% of independents ranked abortion as an issue in deciding who they’ll vote for. Of course, this was prior to the SCOTUS overturning Roe, this will change some, maybe. I think most independents tend to ignore the abortion issue as it’s a subject they don’t like thinking or talking about. I could be wrong here, no numbers to back it up, but it makes sense to me.

I’m sure that the great divide, the polarization and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship we have today just got larger. The divide instead of being the Grand Canyon is now the Atlantic Ocean. Partisanship now reaches to the moon and the hate for the other party and their voters has now become impossible to bridge. The old political times, era if you will where compromise and playing the game of give and take are now over. The feeling on both sides of the aisle is you can’t compromise with the enemy.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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The Utah Republicans passed a "trigger" law that was signed by their governor and it was waiting on deck for the assumed outcome of the SCOTUS ruling, the overturning of Roe v Wade. As of yesterday, UT became the first state to make performing an abortion a felony.

Sponsor of the UT bill, Kerianne Lisonbee, states that it is a woman's duty to control a man's ejaculate, saying:

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I trust women enough to control when they allow a man to ejaculate inside of them and to control that intake of semen

Let's see how well that works out for Kerianne, if she is ever sexually attacked and impregnated.


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Originally Posted by perotista
...I think most independents tend to ignore the abortion issue as it’s a subject they don’t like thinking or talking about....
It that is true, these people bury their head in the sand like an ostrich, they have no right to vote to put others into office who then make decisions for everyone else.


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I've written this hundreds of times:

Q: What's the difference between al Qaeda, ISIS, and the American Conservative?
A: Not much, they all think that guns and religious law are the solution to everything.


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Gorsuch, Beer Pong Kavanaugh, and Coat Hanger Barret all lied during their confirmation hearings stating that Roe was settled law and they need to be impeached.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Originally Posted by perotista
...I think most independents tend to ignore the abortion issue as it’s a subject they don’t like thinking or talking about....
It that is true, these people bury their head in the sand like an ostrich, they have no right to vote to put others into office who then make decisions for everyone else.
Abortion is only one issue on a list of around 20 that folks will decide on who to vote for this midterm. Inflation, the economy is number one. You have Climate Change, Immigration, education, foreign policy, national security, health care, Taxes, government spending, civil rights, civil liberties, gun control, gun rights, crime, criminal justice reform and more in no order.

Each individual must decide which is most important to them and then vote accordingly.


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I think the only thing important is to vote "democracy".


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Originally Posted by perotista
Inflation, the economy is number one.
Voting on inflation is asinine. The Biden Administration can't control global markets due to a pandemic and Russia's fool-hearty and neurotic desire to make Ukraine country part of Russia.

If people are not able to process information enough think and reason adequately, they have no business voting. mad


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Originally Posted by Rick
these people bury their head in the sand like an ostrich, they have no right to vote to put others into office

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If people are not able to process information enough think and reason adequately, they have no business voting.
So you're suggesting that Democrats need to stop people from voting to achieve their agenda...

Make them take a purity test to earn the privilege of voting perhaps?

But really...if Trump was still president and inflation was through the roof...

Would you be shouting desperately from the rooftops that it isn't his fault and anyone who thinks it is shouldn't be allowed to vote...?

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I’ve advocated for a competency test to vote.

There is a reason why Donald Trump said that he loves the poorly uneducated because they are the most loyal.


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