Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Constitutional Issues It happened! No more Roe

Exactly!

I can't agree with them but I can't blame them.

So SCOTUS is powered by butt-hurt.

Nice.

Our modern political era of polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship that we live in today lends itself to political revenge and payback. For the last 50 years it’s been the Republican’s contention that what the Democrats couldn’t get at the ballot box, they got through the courts. Today, the tables are turned. Today, it’ll be the Republicans using the courts to get what they couldn’t get at the ballot box. It’s a new found power for the GOP.

Apparently, there are many in the Jewish faith who will be challenging this SCOTUS ruling at the state level. Apparently, the majority SCOTUS Catholic Christian sect's view of a fetus' relationship with a woman's body is in conflict with the Jewish faith's view of the fetus in a woman's body.

Get out the popcorn.

Given that Congress "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," this will be an interesting fight.

Congress has made no laws concerning abortion. The Supreme Court has not banned abortion. They have simply returned the power to regulate it to the states.

If you need an abortion, Rick, please let me know and I'll arrange to get you to a state where it is legal.

And if Jews want to tell everyone else what's Kosher and what's not, they need to become a majority and get their candidates elected so they can write the laws instead of the filthy Christians.

This entire thing confuses me. Roe, as far as I have ever understood it was about privacy. The word "abortion" was never there from the getgo. My understand was that it about things that are nobody else's business and private and Roe made that a right. Abortion was there because somebody decided that abortion was nobody else's business. What this one means is that, basically, nobody has a damned thing that is their own business and nobody else's now! One of the Supremes even noted that whilst going along with it all. When the Roe thing ended there was some discussion of this but it all got buried in the current fight. The really strange thing is that, for 50 years, everybody had a right to keep some things personal because they could - they/you can't anymore! Queer? - you haven't any rights when it comes to personal rights anymore. Do stuff that is not illegal but spit upon by the public? Good Luck! In the future the newsies are going to have a field day!

As far as I can tell nobody either doesn't understand what happened or just doesn't give a damn. I suspect the news, in future, is going to give us a bit more dirt in their reporting as that will draw in those interested in private matters of others and its going to be a freaking disaster. If anybody has forgotten - we all now have entertainment news and everybody seems to love it but a lot more lives are going to be miserable over this one. Abortion is just a small part of what is coming.

Oh, over the years I have tried to get somebody to actually get some laws passed that dealt with abortion. Everytime I tried I was told that everything was fine because of Roe. I tried, I failed. We had 50 freaking years to fix this and I couldn't get anybody to even consider! I tend to get a bit disturbed when I see something that isn't going to work so I made myself a pest at times. This is, however, a really good example of paying attention when they are trusting in a law that is not particularly specific when specificity is necessary. This was one and we are all going to pay the price, regardless of political party preference - EVERYBODY!! That includes them smug Republican jackasses!

I know, sometimes I go too far but, I fear, I might be right on this one!

Exactly.

...but states have, and as my post outlines, people of Jewish faith will be challenging those states laws.

...as filthy Christians (your words) already know, Jewish faith believers can run things being the minority. So can Muslims.

Rightwingers and the supposed centrists that support them, conveniently ignore that a Conservative SCOTUS in 1973 formed that opinion using 14th amendment privacy gurantees. Now that Conservatives are mostly Fascists, they want to control people's lives and bodies because they're so damn nosy and in everyone's business these days.

Do you imagine those laws haven't already been challenged? By better arguments than a religious conflict?

At any rate...abortion is still perfectly legal in the eyes of the federal government, the constitution, and the majority of the people in the United States. They are, and will continue to be readily available to most who need them. But, like firecrackers, they won't be available in all states.