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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Just exactly what are the values of Republicans, Greger? There's are reason why stereotypes exist.

So gay stereotypes, racial stereotypes, and class stereotypes should all receive the same deference you give to conservative stereotypes?

Got it. Politics is the new racism. And stereotypes are its truth.

Republicans value the very same things you do, Rick. Hearth and home, farm and freehold.

They want things to be like they were 50 years ago when times were better.

Generally speaking, liberals want things to be like they'll be 50 years from now when things are better.

You can't go back, but you can't snap your fingers and jump ahead either.


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Yes Greger, stereotypes are displeasing truths. Not acknowledging this is like when racists say they are not racists, because they have a black friend. shocked Stereotypes are often harmful, but not inaccurate.

I also understand you’re well-intentioned Greger, and uphold individualism as do I. smile


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Yes Greger, stereotypes are displeasing truths. Not acknowledging this is like when racists say they are not racists, because they have a black friend. shocked Stereotypes are often harmful, but not inaccurate.

I also understand you’re well-intentioned Greger, and uphold individualism as do I. smile

Thing is, he seems to be talking about the Republicans that existed fifty years ago, many of whom have either died, left the GOP in disgust or are curled up in the fetal position thanks to the NEW and IMPROVED TRUMPY Republican Party.
And that new Trumpy party DOES NOT want "things to be like they were 50 years ago".
Nope, not fifty years ago, not even a hundred years ago, things weren't that good in 1922 either, far as they're concerned.

Try 1855...that's before that bastard Lincoln messed it all up with his Emancipation Proclamation, and before tha Jooz came over in large numbers. The Compromise of 1850 was settled law, too!

But they want to keep their iPhones.


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Thing is, he seems to be talking about the Republicans that existed fifty years ago

Nope. I'm talking about Republicans I know, Republicans today. The mayor of my city...a Black Republican. My best friend down the street, my old neighbors in the swamp...

I'm not talking about the militant right-wingers, the blatant racists, the gun-toting weirdos.

The one's stereotypes are created around. Who make up a tiny percentage of Republican voters.

Both parties have built ridiculous stereotypes and seem actually to believe every member of the party fits the stereotypes.

Rick is even defending homosexual and racial stereotypes as being an accurate gauge of queers and POCs. Just so he can keep his hatred of stereotypical Republicans.

I hate the Republican Party and everything it stands for. I hate Donald Trump as much as any man alive.

But I do not hate every American who doesn't vote for the Democratic Party.

They have their reasons and it's none of my f*cking business.

That's what Democracy is all about.

Declaring war against all who vote against you isn't "democracy".

Both parties are doing it.


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That’s nice to know Greger. Especially since I’m a swing voter who usually votes for some Democrats, some Republicans and a third party or independent candidate or two in almost every election. I can’t remember when or if I ever voted a straight party ticket. I don’t hate, now that doesn’t mean I don’t dislike certain elected officials or candidates as in the job they’re doing, but not the individual. I don’t even hate Trump, although I liked to see him go away someplace and play with himself never to be seen in public again.

I have no loyalty or allegiance to any political party, I just want who I deem the best person for the job, whatever office is elected to do that job. The letter behind their name means nothing to me, I don’t think it ever did. Since independents has grown from 30% in 2006 to 43% if Gallup is to be believed, that letter behind a name is meaning less and less these days.

Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if both major parties decided to look into why both are shrinking, but I don't think either gives a coyote's howl about that. With out two party system, one or the other must win, so why bother. There will be no viable third party, ever to challenge them. Although we definitly need a third if not a fourth also.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Originally Posted by Greger
Rick is even defending homosexual and racial stereotypes as being an accurate gauge of queers and POCs. Just so he can keep his hatred of stereotypical Republicans.
I presented science based fact and reasoning for why stereotypes exist, not hyperbole and emotion. Can you?

For the record, you presented three former Republican presidents as having committed crimes without being held accountable. I simply labeled said formers for their crimes. We’re a tag-team Greger.
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You fail entirely to see the issue, Rick.

What party forgives the other party and never holds them accountable for their sins?

It's a good cop/bad cop setup that serves neocorporate ends. Not yours.

And certainly not mine.


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I presented science based fact and reasoning for why stereotypes exist.

And thus any one of them is fair in any argument. The stereotypical Democrat is a card-carrying socialist with communist intent who wants to destroy America as we know it.

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There are good reasons for the bad reputation of stereotypes, which may give rise to malevolent propaganda about groups: disproportionate media representations of African-Americans as criminals, women as fit for nothing but child-rearing and homemaking, Arabs and Muslims as nothing but bloodthirsty terrorists, Jews as grasping hook-nosed Nazis perpetrating genocide on innocent Palestinian babies. Such characterisations are inaccurate, immoral and repulsive, to say the least.

And yet...the argument goes...

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But as biased and destructive as these images may be, many stereotypes – fixed characterizations of specific groups – turn out to hold kernels of truth.

Kernels of truth, Rick. That's what you base all this hatred and outrage on...kernels of truth.

You can delve further into this if you wish Mr. Reasonable science, sir.

By clicking this link.


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From the title of your link:

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Truth in stereotypes
Social scientists dismiss them, but rather than being universally inaccurate, stereotypes are often grounded in reality

Nobody has claimed that stereotypes are 100% accurate. Nothing is 100% as you know or should know.

In stating the above, I don’t need to continue this discussion with you, nor care to. Clearly the topic has struck a nerve with you, for some reason. I don’t wish to continue in obliging your need for drama and choose to bow out. Thanks in advance for your understanding. smile

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Stereotypes are indeed grounded in reality...unlike your worship of the Democratic Party.

Politics is also the new Religion. Where purity is judged on stereotypical constructs created by a priest class, a religion that promises salvation through the persecutiohn of others.


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