Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 J6: Putting it all together

In the communications between the insurrectionists at all levels in the weeks leading up to the J6 insurrection, the insurrections believed, and were counting on, antiFA showing up in large numbers to physically battle the insurrectionists.

But the didn't happen because antiFA was told to stay away, per PBS' Frontline. Because antiFA did not show, this threw everything off for the Patriot Boys/Oath Keepers/Three Percenters.

Additionally, there was always a plan for post-insurrection disinformation and this was compartmentalized.

What was supposed to happen is, Trump was to get his heavily armed followers riled-up at the Eclipse, he was going lead the charge into the Capitol, which is why Trump said, "it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down."

Once inside the Capitol, the plan included a clash between antiFA and Proud Boys/Oath Keepers/Three Percenters and the plan was to kill Pence, and Pelosi, and 12 Democrats under the cover of rioting dust-up with antiFA, and then the assassins would clear out while Trump called in the National Guard to arrest antiFA for the murders.

Then Congress would reconvene and with enough Democrats killed to shift power to the Republicans in the House, they would vote to throw out the electoral votes and send the election to the House, where Trump would win.

Post-insurrection Rightwing disinformation would turn into a rampant jailing campaign against leftists, journalists, Democrats etc. Because Fox News' Laura Ingraham's opinion show was being taped during the insurrection, Laura did not have the information that antiFA did not show up, told her audience that anitFA was heavily involved in what took place at the Capitol on J6.

Trump was supposed to declare Martial Law and the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers/Three Percenters would keep order and take direction only from Trump, and Mike Flynn's brother was supposed to be second in charge..

But when the Secret Service would not take Trump to the Capitol citing many in the crowd had circumvented the metal detectors, that's when Trump told the Secret Service that crowd would not harm him and why Trump had a hissy fit when he couldn't get to the Capitol. Trump had to get to the Capitol to announce the new order of Presidential succession due to the assassination of Pence and Pelosi. That's how coups work: They're violent, quick, and then you have the pronouncement of the new order right-away.

When it was realized that antiFA did not show up, the back-up plan was to wisk Mike Pence away from the Capitol and let Chuck Grassley take-over for Mike Pence certifying the electors where Grassley was to reject the electors and insert the fake electors. Chuck Grassley on January 5th, the day before the certification of the votes, was already making comments that Mike Pence would not be certifying the votes. There are many Republican Congress people involved in the failed coup attempt.

That all follows pretty closely with the QAnon conspiracy that led up to the event. Though embellished far better than the conspiracy ever was.

But that's the trouble with conspiracy theories.

Antifa had no reason to show up because no "demonstration" was planned or announced...just another Trump speech.

Trump was NEVER going to be allowed to join the armed crowd. And he was aware that Antifa was not in attendance because he knew the crowd was friendly.

So the smokescreen and the mighty leader were missing from the rebellion. It was little more than another seed of chaos planted by a cowardly leader.

Trump could have called in the troops(declared Martial Law) at any point. If he had even a hundred loyal troops to send to the Capital, they could have taken control, assassinated the necessary Democrats and Vice President Pence and some general would announce that Trump was the lawful president.

But there was only conspiring and never really any planning...and it was doomed from the start.

Republicans made absolute fools of themselves.

Yeah…just discount ALL the supporting links of the post to back-up the claims in the post and what we know to be true about that day, Greger. Perhaps you’re just too lazy to click the links, I don’t know.

That assertion is in conflict with the reality of the video that is linked above of Trump having a hissy fit inside the presidential SUV. Trump was expecting to be taken to the Capitol.

Tony Ornato, Secret Service agent was also Trump’s Deputy Chief of Staff - something never done before. Trump had inside Secret Service loyalists.

Trump was expecting to win the election too.

He was expecting to hang Mike Pence, declare himself president for life and stroll back to the WH like nothing ever happened.

When in reality...nothing ever happened but a riot.

Yes, but what happened is not what was planned. What was planned is the issue.

What you're suggesting is that if a a bank robbery is not successful, the participants should never be tried for attempting to rob a bank. We both know that dog won't hunt.

Trump was told in September 2020 that he was not going to win the election. Several staff members are on record telling Trump this. Trump has never been told no in his life and we saw the results of this during his presidency. Plus Kellyanne Conway quit the campaign in August of 2020, as a professional pollster, she knew Trump was going to lose in August.

Rick, I assume the links you post back up what you say. Why else would you post them?

I'm not here to moderate other websites and spend my time online reading things that you found interesting, or to consider the opinions of journalists at your favorite websites.

I'm only interested in what YOU say HERE.

And what you just typed was just about exactly what my QAnon weirdo friend told me was gonna go down on Jan 6.

Trump knew about it too and was glued to his television waiting for it all to happen...


Democrats are now glued to their televisions waiting for him to be hung for treason.

I'm munching on caramel corn and having a coffee.

The participants have been or are now being investigated and tried, and I've never suggested anywhere that they shouldn't be.

Is that a strawman I see there? Are you putting words in my fingers that I never typed?

Are you putting thoughts in my head that I never thunk?

All I have ever suggested is that there could be some political blowback. Like Biden being successfully impeached and removed from office...or DeSantis winning in 2024.

Your dismissal of the planning lead me to conclude what I typed.

What High Crime or Misdemeanor has POTUS Biden committed?