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There's just SO much to agree with here!

I don't know where to start.

Demographics will inevitably lead to the demise of its current iteration (although the structure of our federal government makes rooting out the infection difficult), because it is decidedly a party at war with the liberal values of urban America, which is expanding its reach.

I honestly don't get the connection between rural America and the Republican Party.

Somebody has been hornswoggled.

Or perhaps more correctly, societal mores in rural populations are liable to be a few years out of date, and the more "hip" urban notions are seen as "woke" and out of step with society at large...bringing the stragglers along into a brave new world has always been the burden of the avant-garde.

Here is a good example of dishonest media.

As we know from this thread, Steve Bannon has been lying all along about Trump giving him Executive Privilege, Trump then gave Bannon permission to talk to the J6 Committee and that is why Bannon is now talking to J6, supposedly.

Trump's council is saying none of the above ever happened. Surprisingly, I believe Trump.

BUT, here's the issue: Breitbart titled their version of above as Steve Bannon offers to testify at January 6 Committee

Offers to testify?!? Bannon was subpoenaed! Bannon lied not to testify. THAT is not offering!

THIS is the problem...intellectual dishonesty in the media and why there is a 50/50 split of reality in this country.

It almost seems as if a lot of people regard The Federalist Society as some kind of legitimate part of the government...you know, like it's a government agency or something.
Of course, a lot of those same people also seem to regard The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) as an embedded part of the government, too.

You know..."ALEC writes our laws and the Federalist Society interprets them. That's just how it is."

Nobody seems to know what happened to the practice of ordinary citizens and their elected lawmakers writing legislation, just like no one seems to know why it's wrong to make the Federalists the MONOPOLY source for SCOTUS justices.
You know, this SAME group of people, many of whom are faithful Alex Jones listeners, seem to forget that Alex Jones used to rant and rave 24/7 about America's "secret societies".

Seems like ALEC and the Federalists are secret societies. No one has a direct line to communicate with them unless they too are in the inner circle, they don't get elected by anybody, they aren't accountable to anyone except for their donors, and they're always sticking their noses into literally EVERY aspect of American life, deciding FOR us how we should live them.
And they don't like anyone knowing what their calendar or long term agenda is, or where they're going to meet, or who their benefactors are. They prefer that most people don't even know of their existence at all.

Yep, sounds like a couple of secret societies to me.

---And we haven't even yet touched on The United States Chamber of Commerce!
No, they are NOT a secret society, but I'd wager $20.00 that a majority of Americans automatically assume they're part of the government, too.

I couldn't agree more. I think, having lived in rural America, urban America, and suburban America, there is a continuum of progress that you have correctly diagnosed.

Rural Americans like things to remain as they are, or think they do. But, they have no sensibility about how others feel about it. "That's how we've always done it" or "if it was good enough for my father, it's good enough for me" are constant refrains in those communities. Forget about thinking about how the needs in a city might be different than they are in rural communities. The mythology of rugged individualism runs very strong, and often for good reason. When I drove truck, the solution to any breakdown was to find a "good ol' boy" to fix it, because that self-sufficiency meant they knew how to jerry-rig just about anything into operation. Actual repairs, well, that's a different matter.

It's the red-blue divide, but written by population density. There are few States of the Union that don't have a liberal city center in their midst, and they are pretty consistently governed by a Democratic Mayor. Lincoln, Nebraska; Witchita, Kansas; Dallas and Houston, Texas; Memphis and Nashville, Tennessee; Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Kansas City and St. Louis, Missouri; Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona - even Boise, Idaho. Red America's cities are Blue.

As Millenials take over the Republican Party I think you'll start to see a softening in their hidebound stance. Red state Millenials are somewhat more urbane than their Boomer and Xer counterparts. More attuned to the real world, more interconnected than older generations ever were.

Everyone is dependent on the same systems remaining functional regardless of population density.

Au contraire. Millennials will make up the largest part of the Trumpies.
Has it been THAT long since you remember the passion AND the impetuousness of youth?
Richard Spencer is not an anomaly.

Tbagger Richard Spencer is no longer youthful - he's middle-aged now.

Millenials are nearing middle age. But the oldest of them resemble Xers more than Zoomers.

Boomers are still in complete control of everthing.

I suggest that much of that is due to the fact that most of those middle aged millennials like Spencer hitched their wagons to the most evil and corrupt Boomer to ever walk the earth.



Richard Spencer is a millennial, Marjorie Taylor-Greene is a millennial, Lauren Boebert is a millennial, Mitch McConnell is a Boomer and he's on Trump's shitte list. You also aren't going to find very many Boomers in the Oath Keepers, III%-ers and Proud Boys because they're too old.

I suggest millennials and X-ers aren't innocent victims in this.

Nobody has ever paid attention to us X'ers - and still don't. We're the invisible generation.