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Awwwww geez Rick, you're exaggerating again! Trump will probably be a good president, so will all the other Republicans, fascism isn't so bad, stop being hysterical.
AND GET OFF MY LAWN! ...as if Trump's incompetency would suddenly disappear.  Incompetency = least of the problems. Outright fascism. Outright criminality.
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I'll be interested to see what information the Secret Service discloses today.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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It appears the Secret Service was shining the Committee on. Secret Service will say no new Jan....ds were deleted; investigation requested. They have also rolled out a new slogan, " When we say SECRET, we really mean it." I agree with this assessment: Opinion: The Secret Service's actions on text messages don't pass the smell test" If the deleted data was the result of some bizarro act of benign negligence, that data should be easy to recoup. In fact, I would argue that the bigger and far more nefarious outcome of the Tuesday deadline will be if the Secret Service says it was simply unable to reconstruct all or most of the missing data.
As nearly every IT professional knows, with the right resources, a good forensic IT team can gather just about any data that has been "deleted" -- nothing is ever really gone for good. If, in fact the Secret Service indicates that the records are really gone, it could mean they were erased with intent, but we'll have to wait for the outcome of the investigation to know."
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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An obvious question is: Why was the Secret Service texting instead of using their radios?
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Wondering exactly how all those Secret Service texts got deleted? Just watch this: James Murray Is The Problem At The Secret ServiceSeems Trump wanted his loyal agent Tony Ornato to be the next director of the Secret Service. But Ornato had other plans. He recommended his buddy agent James Murray for the role. After a 10 minute interview, Trump decided Murray was his guy. And Murray is STILL director of the Secret Service! All Secret Service agents were warned three times to preserve Jan 6th texts and call info. One of those even had step-by-step instructions on how to do it. And yet somehow most of those texts are gone. Were there messages telling agents to remove Pence from the Capital? Because that was the plan, and dollars to donuts Trump plotters are still in the Secret Service right up to leadership positions. I think the Secret Service needs an enema.
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It wasn't that long ago when Republicans practically burning the White House down because Hillary Clinton deleted email coupons from Bed, Bath, & Beyond from her lame homebrewed server. It wasn't that long ago that the forensic reconstruction of deleted texts between FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, which were conveniently leaked to reporters and then weaponized by congressional Republicans so they could pretend that it was illegitimate to investigate Trump's coordination with the Russians influencing our 2016 election.
So maybe Dems could take a page from Rep. Liz Cheney and grow a pair in time to hold some hearings on this apparent SSgate coverup, because this SS deleting texts crap reeks to high heaven.
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Why is the Secret Service at Ivana Trump's funeral? Why is the Trump spawn STILL being protected? 
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SecretServicegate is now a criminal investigation. Tony Ornato is in a lot of trouble now. 
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An obvious question is: Why was the Secret Service texting instead of using their radios? I think we now know what they were texting about: One tranche was the texts to family members saying goodbye; a second tranche was gossiping about Trump's unhinged tirade.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I suspect there might have been a much smaller, much more incriminating set of text messages between certain individuals. Director James M. Murray needs to testify under oath as to exactly why he deleted all his text messages, even though his office directed all members of the Secret Service to preserve them. Same for Tony Ornato.
This certainly looks like Tampering with Evidence, a felony with up to a 20 year prison sentence.
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