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This is interesting. As a swing voter, a former member of Ross Perot’s Reform party I’ll be watching this quite closely as time goes by.

Exclusive-Former Republicans and Democrats form new third U.S. political party

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-223654665.html

Chances of success are probably close to zero. But I’m for anything and any party that attempts to bridge the gap in ideology along with possibly getting us out of today’s modern political era of Polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship where each major party views the other major party as this nation’s number one, worst enemy.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...voters_see_each_other_as_america_s_enemy


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Originally Posted by perotista
This is interesting. As a swing voter, a former member of Ross Perot’s Reform party I’ll be watching this quite closely as time goes by.

Exclusive-Former Republicans and Democrats form new third U.S. political party

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-223654665.html

Chances of success are probably close to zero. But I’m for anything and any party that attempts to bridge the gap in ideology along with possibly getting us out of today’s modern political era of Polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship where each major party views the other major party as this nation’s number one, worst enemy.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...voters_see_each_other_as_america_s_enemy

It will do what third parties always do, help elect Republicans.


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If anything Trump has taught us is that it is NOT business as usual* as long as he's still around.


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There are times Jeffrey when third party or the available of third-party candidates brings voters to the polls whereas they wouldn’t have. Classic example is 2016, 6% voted third party that year which included 12% of independents. Which is not surprising when 25% of all Americans disliked both major party candidates and didn’t want neither one to become the next president which included 54% of independents.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/pol...ans-dislike-presidential-candidates.aspx

Both Trump and Clinton set the record for the lowest favorable ratings in our history or since Gallup and Pew Research began keeping track of these things. Trump 36% favorable, Clinton 38% favorable. Unfavorable was Clinton at 56% and Trump at 60% Trump and Clinton are the only two presidential candidates to have a favorable rating of below 40% and an unfavorable rating of above 50%. Barry Goldwater in 1964 held the record for the lowest favorable at 43% and the highest unfavorable at 47% prior to 2016. Now Barry can rest in peace knowing there were two candidates much more disliked by all Americans than him.

CNN asked those who voted third party who they’d would have voted for if only Trump and Clinton were on the ballot, no other candidates. 19% answered Trump, 16% Clinton and a whopping 65% said they’d wouldn’t have voted. Having third party choices did increase voter turnout if only to vote against both major party candidates.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

You can see the third-party vote actually helped Clinton in 2016. It’s an old wife’s tale about third party vote always helping the GOP. Usually the Libertarian candidate is the highest vote getter outside of the two major parties and they draw conservatives’ voters away from Republican candidates. Another more recent example, without the Libertarian candidate, Hazel drawing 2,3% of the vote in Nov 2020, Perdue would have achieved his 50% plus one vote. He received 49.7% to Ossoff’s 47.9%. Thanks to third party candidates the Democrats control the senate today.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/georgia-senate-results

Bottom line is history shows third party in most instances takes votes away from the GOP and that the high voter turnout always benefiting the Democrats is also a myth, another old wives’ tale most have bought into without doing any research.


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Speaking of Independents, I won't be surprised if Liz Cheney loses her primary, but then wins as an Independent candidate in November. MAGA Republicans dominate the Republican Party in Wyoming, but I suspect they may not have a majority of all the votes. Particularly after The Big MAGA gets indicted.


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There are barely half a million people in Wyoming. There's not a lot of wiggle room, but Cheney has begun mailing Democrats with instructions on how to change parties to vote for her in the primaries...

Her opponent had this to say about the effort...
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“What Cheney doesn’t understand is that Democrats will drop her like a bad habit after she’s no longer useful to them on the Jan. 6 committee.”

She's right about that. Other than the Trump thing, Cheney stands opposed to everything Democrats believe.


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Originally Posted by Greger
There are barely half a million people in Wyoming. There's not a lot of wiggle room, but Cheney has begun mailing Democrats with instructions on how to change parties to vote for her in the primaries...

Her opponent had this to say about the effort...
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“What Cheney doesn’t understand is that Democrats will drop her like a bad habit after she’s no longer useful to them on the Jan. 6 committee.”

She's right about that. Other than the Trump thing, Cheney stands opposed to everything Democrats believe.
I actually thought that Cheney had a good idea, until she came out against Roe and then I thought..."welp, she is still a conservative at the end of the day."

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Republicans voting for party over country and voting against the economy and veterans?!? Say it's not so! smile



Guess McTurtle is feeling bitter after new polling shows insurrectionist fomenting Donald Trump endorsed candidates Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania and Herschel Walker in Georgia are both losing badly to their respective Democratic opponents and Ohio's J.D. Vance is struggling.

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While the Dems have their flaws, they are at the moment, the only thing standing between America and a monstrous gang of radical seditionist Republicans who are actively trying to dismantle democracy and impose an authoritarian theocracy where women don't have rights over their own bodies, same-sex marriages are banned, guns are everywhere, and the only books kids are allowed to read in school are illustrated copies of Art of the Deal illustrated by Trump himself and all drawn in Sharpie.

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Originally Posted by Greger
There are barely half a million people in Wyoming. There's not a lot of wiggle room, but Cheney has begun mailing Democrats with instructions on how to change parties to vote for her in the primaries...

Her opponent had this to say about the effort...
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“What Cheney doesn’t understand is that Democrats will drop her like a bad habit after she’s no longer useful to them on the Jan. 6 committee.”

She's right about that. Other than the Trump thing, Cheney stands opposed to everything Democrats believe.
You got that exactly right Greger. Once the Democrats have got their use of Cheney on the 1-6 committee, they’ll completely wash their hands of her. They’ll drop her like a ton of bricks.


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