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Over time, the Democratic party become less conservative, and the Republican party more conservative.

Conservative Democrats promoted slavey and even wrote Jim Crow laws and started the KKK

In 1964 when the Civil Rights Act was signed, Conservative Dixiecrat Democrats switched to the Republican party to spite Lyndon Johnson. Richard Nixon also recruited these Conservative Democrats under his "Southern Strategy" effort.

Conservatism is the only common thread to pre-1940 racist and bigoted Democrats and post-1964 racist and bigoted Republicans.

Exactly. Republicans were Liberals when they initially started out.

It doesn't cost them anything to lie.
In the real world, if you lie about anything on an employment application, even if they discover it ten years later, you STILL might get fired.
If you lie on your taxes, you might do time or have a large fine, and they might garnish your wages or take your stuff and auction it off.
If you lie in court under oath, it's a crime.
If you lie to police they will use it against you in court.
If you lie to a grand jury you could get sent up the river.

So far, what has The Big Lie COST any of these clowns?
Not a goddamn thing.
And I don't understand how they can get off scot free when these lies are costing everyone else a lot, and where these lies could very well trigger wars.

These lies, these BIG LIES, may wind up costing a great many more people their very lives if pushed hard enough, a great many more than the lives that were sacrificed at the US Capitol on January 6th.
And still, in a country which claims to be a nation of laws, peddling these Big Lies that do such massive harm to society, peace and the general Welfare, cost these liars NOTHING.

So how do we go about seeing to it that they do cost them?
Suggestions other than kicking their asses from here to Kingdom Come in a civil war would be much appreciated because I am pessimistic enough that I'm accepting the fact that the war is inevitable.
And just like 165 years ago, it is even doubtful that doing that horrible deed would stop the Big Lie.
No, it has to COST the individuals who spread these lies very dearly on a personal level.
We have to do whatever it takes to make it a crime to knowingly peddle dangerous lies for the express purpose of beating democracy to within an inch of its life.
Otherwise we might as well set the Constitution on fire right now, the one our families and ancestors fought, bled and died to defend.

We do the only things the constitution allows us to do...

We vote. We support candidates we like. We run for office ourselves.

Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. That's what makes it a democracy.

Scott was my governor for eight long years, I despise the man more than you can know.
I have no idea how crooks like him and Trump get elected in the first place, nor how they get away with the blatant lies. And folks like them invariably gravitate to the republican party.
McConnell shunned him as a crackpot, which also implies much about the party itself.

The entire right-wing phenomenon is based on lies and bullsh*t and bigotry. A kind of white trash snootiness that pervades the whole party.

Like rumors through the trailer park. Amid the scent of garbage and old wet charcoal.

The lies are more entertaining than the truth, and the truth is a matter of opinion.

But once a majority of them believe the lies, they get to implement the policies they choose.

Which fail. And their asses get booted to the curb again. Because it's all based on lies.

And we, like Sysiphus, are doomed never to achieve our lofty goals...

This Greger ^^^ needs to come visit Reader Rant more often!

The funniest bit of trivia about Newt is he was a huge oral sex fan. He probably had some young lady under the podium half the time he was scolding Clinton for his adventures with the chubby intern. And this was widely known around DC at the time! Just not suitable for discussion by gentlemen of congress or the news media. And of course he was cheating on his wife with his "next wife" multiple times. One was even in the hospital with cancer at the time.

Just goes to show: Anytime a Republican accuses you of something, they are probably doing that very same thing themselves.

Today on NPRs Fresh Air with Terry Gross, Terry interviewed Dana Milbank. Milbank has a new book out titled, The Destructionists: The Twenty-Five Year Crack-Up of the Republican Party

Milbank states that this destruction began 25 years ago in the mid-90s when Newt Gingrich of Georgia, became the House Speaker and took the House in a more divisive direction than it had been. Milbank states that Gingrich pioneered "savage politics."

Gingrich replaced Bob Michael, a genial WWII vet, who had been the House Minority speaker for fourteen years. Michael was all about making deals and compromise. Then came Newt Gingrich - a bomb thrower who spoke a completely different language from Michael. Gingrich recommended to his peers, that they needed to started labeling Democrats as traitors, as liars, as cheaters - an entirely different way of talking about an opponent as your enemy. Defiantly a revolutionary way of speaking in politics.

When the Republicans took the House and Sentate in 1994, America never had a Speaker of the House speaking in this manner before.

The psychological term for that is called projection. Everything that Donald Trump accuses others of is 100% projection.

There is only one Greger. He doesn't approve of calls to violence or senseless hatred against those who vote against you in a democracy.

It appears somewhat anti-democratic.

That aura of trailer-park snootiness and righteous indignation lingers over both parties.

The answers usually aren't somewhere in between, but somewhere beyond where either party is willing or able to go...without major reform...which isn't gonna happen anytime soon.

It's going to take a decade or more to untangle ourselves from the mess we've gotten ourselves into. I refuse to spend the next ten years getting triggered by every headline and "getting prepared" for the upcoming "civil war".

It's not gonna happen. It can't happen here. I'm telling you, my dear, that it can't happen here.

I've been checking it out...


Poor old Zappa's dead and gone...

Trump and his cult have the best propaganda machine we have seen in modern times and it excels in opportunism. It is the mark of a good con man and he has been conning just about everyone since his youth. Gingrich used the term limit lie to capture enough votes to seize control of Congress with no plans to ever implement the limits. What scares me now are the outright calls for violence by the Trumpies in response to the Mart-a-Lago raid. Let's hope what they found will shock people back into reality.

Doug