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Stolen from Twitter:

Schrödinger's Treason:
When you didn't take, accidentally took, innocently used, declassified and then took, took and then declassified, the documents that you never took and were illicitly planted in your house by the FBI - all simultaneously.

It will be interesting to see if the kitty is alive or dead when they finally open the box.

I've been reading some articles in which Trump apologists are claiming the federal statutes about document mishandling that disqualify the violator from holding office, would have that part ruled unconstitutional. They say the constitution contains the qualifications, so a law can't trump that.

This is a big part of the problem with Trump: He commits so many new crimes, we tend to forget about the previous crimes. In this case, Amendment 14 already will disqualify him for giving aid or comfort to insurrectionists. Something that is already in the constitution can't be declared unconstitutional.

I have to admit, I didn't see this one coming, so it is difficult to ascertain where it is going to end. The DoJ, though, is not messing around.

The DoJ has objected to the release of the underlying affidavit because the investigation is ongoing. I think that is significant. I think, though, that is related to them trying to determine what else is missing. This COULD be huge. Or maybe they just wanted to secure the documents.

The truth is, Trump has been a security risk since he came into office. He is an embarrassment that the nation may never live down, but also a risk that will continue until he leaves the scene in a gold-painted box (an event his kids will find a way to monetize).

I am hoping, but not expecting, he will get his comeuppance. But, it seems more likely that those around him are heading for the fall in his stead. The complication is simply the sheer criminality of Trump and his cronies. How many criminal investigations are we up to: 2016 Russian collusion (of which this may be a part); obstruction of ... well, everything; vote fraud; seditious conspiracy...

Active prosecution of the Trump Organization is still underway. Weisselberg is pleading guilty. There are active grand juries in Georgia, D.C. New York (?) and Florida. And the Jan 6 committee is about to reopen hearings in September. Something is bound to land.

One of Trump's first meetings of foreign visitors was with the Russians, when Trump blabbed Israeli intel to the Russians.

Then there was that one house in Helsinki when Trump met with Putin by himself with no American press or no American translator.

And even with all of this, Mr. Trump will walk away scot free. Everything that I have seen this far, reinforces my thoughts that he is above the law.

That's my take on it too, Kaine. It's just a rather brazen example of how much the wealthy and powerful can get away with if they have no scruples at all...

Welcome back Kane!

That guarantees a return and the collapse of our democratic form of government.
We already watched this play out eighty years ago.
In fact, even if he IS convicted and incarcerated, if it's a light sentence of a year or so, or something mild like "house arrest", it guarantees he will monetize his martyrdom and grow a network of insurgents several orders of magnitude larger than the current collection.

Any sentencing must include provisions, which are indeed CONSTITUTIONAL as noted above, that he is forbidden from holding ANY elected office for the rest of his life, and that's if he is ever allowed to walk free again.

One interesting thing about Trump's many crimes, is DOJ does not have to indict him on all of them at once. They can actually try him for his crimes one at a time. That way if some jury nullification does occur, they still send him to prison for the trials were it does not. I suspect the government will want to hold him in such a way he can't sell secrets, since he has already threatened to do that. Or the terms of his incarceration can change drastically if any such secrets emerge. Installing a solitary confinement block at Mar-A-Lago is entirely possible after the government seizes it for tax fraud.

At this point, I think his best option is to delay, delay, delay, so he dies before he suffers any punishment. Just like Rudy.

You can't possibly be serious.
After all, we know what happens when a lord of the realm gets incarcerated in a luxo-jail built just for them.
Isn't that what they used to do to powerful drug cartel members?
What's the matter America, lost the stomach to put away bad guys?