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I have been saying it for a long time Trump will run in 24. And I have been saying he won't. I've also been saying that he won't go to jail. Now, you can believe he might run, or you can believe he might go to jail. But you can't believe both. I'm willing to place a small bet on either of those things. Donald Trump might be the "god" of the republican party but he is surprisingly mortal and nearing the end of his life. Republicans alone can't elect him. He needs more independent support than he will ever be able to regain. You need to set your sights on DeSantis and forget about Trump. Trump is a dead horse and no amount of beating is gonna bring him back to life.
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I have been saying it for a long time Trump will run in 24. And I have been saying he won't. I've also been saying that he won't go to jail. I believe you will be proved wrong on both accounts. Although I would modify that to say, he will run, but still be prosecuted. I'm not sure he'll survive the prosecution process. You are right, though, that DeSantis is a greater national risk right now - unless Trump does run. Then there may be a battle royale after all.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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...DeSantis is a greater national risk right now... Only because DeSantis is smarter and more conniving than Trump.
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Trump might be able to run in 2024. He might be disqualified.
He might mount a primary campaign against DeSantis, Pence, and all other comers.
And IF he survives the courts, and a contentious primary election to become the Republican nominee...He will still lose in the general because independents still hate him.
He's a terrible choice. He'll only be able to serve one term even if elected...and his only goal is revenge against any and all who wronged him in his first term.
There are simply too many negatives to list. The chances of Trump running or winning in 2024 were vanishingly small from the start and have continued to shrink. Even his family seems to have deserted him.
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Jan. 6 Grand Jury Has Subpoenaed White House Documents (NYT) Grand jury subpoenas Trump White House lawyers for Jan. 6 probe (PBS) This is what happens when a serious investigation is nearing the finish line. I think the investigations are merging as well.
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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via The Washington PostA federal appeals court has temporarily paused an order that would have required Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) to testify before a Georgia grand jury investigating Republican efforts to reverse the 2020 presidential election results in the state. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit on Sunday temporarily put his appearance on hold, asking a lower court to consider whether Graham should be protected from answering some questions about his official duties as a U.S. senator. Clearly, fighting and kicking (...and scratching) NOT to give witness testimony is something that people on the up and up do all of the time. No, not really.  When you don't want to testify, it means one thing: you don't want to be forced to tell the truth. You are basically trying to get away with something, and hiding the truth. Fulton County DA Fanni Willis ought to move Graham out of the witness column and over to the target column because Lindsey did make calls to have mail-in ballots removed from the totals.
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The appeals court has sent the federal court's ruling back for consideration if Miss Lindsey's Senate position makes him exempt from questioning. But the strange thing is the original court ruling already did consider that, and said quite clearly that trying to overturn a state's vote count is NOT a protected "legislative act". It's actually a crime. So I'm not sure what the judge is supposed to "reconsider". I guess the DA should just indict him.
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I guess the DA should just indict him. That’s a good plan. Lady G obviously went judge shopping and found one to do her bidding. These Republicans are too much. Lady G will pro’lly come down with a case of the vapors when she gets indicted - the poor dear. Her 18 year old Rent Boy will need to comfort her on the fainting couch. 
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I think his vapors will be less "gas-like", and more "brick-like".
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Lady G's little dog and pony show is on a very short leash: Judge sets expedited schedule for Lindsey Graham testimony to ensure he can't stall for monthsDistrict Court Judge Leigh Martin May ruled tha Lindsey Graham has until 9am this Wednesday to file a Motion as to exactly as to which questions and/or categories he is requesting the Court to address in an Order to partially quash the subpoena. Fulton County DA's Office will have until next Monday to respond, after which Graham must respond by Wednesday, August 31, 2022. 
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