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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Rwingers are fit to be tied. They think it was no problem that Trump was in possession of national security documents at MaL.
Not only should they be tied, but gagged, chained, hooded and sequestered. Whatever one does to animals with rabies to protect the public.

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Another thing that needs to be remembered is, that search warrants don't always produce the evidence expected. There was probable cause to believe relevant evidence would be recovered, but it might have been moved, it may have been destroyed, it may never have been there. It will be a long time before what they were looking for or what they found is known.


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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Republican reaction to the FBI raid on Mara-Largo:

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The Justice Department has reached an intolerable state of weaponized politicization. Attorney General Garland, preserve your documents and clear your calendar.
- House Minority Leader, Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)

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The raid was akin to political persecution seen in third world marxist dictatorships.
- Marco Rubio, Senator (R-FL)

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The raid of Mara-Largo is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the regimes' political opponents. While people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the regime is getting another 87 million IRS agents to weld against their advisories. Banana Republic!
- Ron DeSantis, (R) Florida Govenor

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I would agree with those quotes Rick. In the bizzaro world we live in today it looks like the Dem coalition of tech, finance, pharma and the security state makes less sense whereas the coalition of private companies, hydrocabons and MIC coalition party are making more sense.

Instead of doing any redistributive policies that Biden promised on the campaign trail, we've seen the launch of a war in the Ukraine, provoking the other peer competitor nation to speed up unification with Taiwan and raiding a former president (who started no wars, BTW) house in another political stunt.

It's wild to me that MTG is making more sense on our militarism and associated fraud than the neoliberal/neocon coalition but here we are.

If this turns out to be another empty hand being played for publicity I can imagine it being a central factor in Trumps re-election.

On the other hand, a Trump administration was EXTREMELY lucrative for Dems fundraising and their political networks ratings. It also obviated the need for arguments on why they are so ineffectual cus TRUMP!!! Dems are masters at losing after all.

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Around noon, today, the judge will turn loose the documents (in theory, including the list of stuff taken) and then it may get interesting. Trump could have done that the same day they took the stuff but kept it a secret. Now he has said to release them but he has not told the judge to do that and he can't do that until around noon (western) today.

Anyway ..............

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Turns out the FBI sought nuclear weapons documents, but recovered signals intelligence. Signals intelligence is intelligence-gathering by interception of signals, whether communications between people or from electronic signals not directly used in communication.

Pretty sure that Trump is screwed without the hugs and the kisses. smile


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Turns out the FBI sought nuclear weapons documents, but recovered signals intelligence. Signals intelligence is intelligence-gathering by interception of signals, whether communications between people or from electronic signals not directly used in communication.

Pretty sure that Trump is screwed without the hugs and the kisses. smile

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Seems to me that the attorney general is investigating a LOT of things. One can only wonder what he ends up with. I believe Trump is a criminal and criminals rarely stick to a specific crime but tend to simply commits crimes that may bring in the bucks. Now I am thinking of some kind of mass charge. I have no idea what that might look like.

It also seems that the main problem is upsetting those that want to destroy America in favor of what the White Christians want to tell us how to behave and do what they say. The entire mess is needs serious attention and, hopefully, the attorney general will figure how to do that without a civil war. So far they have just managed to send out solo maniacs to kill those that don't agree with them.

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Originally Posted by jgw
Seems to me that the attorney general is investigating a LOT of things. One can only wonder what he ends up with. I believe Trump is a criminal and criminals rarely stick to a specific crime but tend to simply commits crimes that may bring in the bucks. Now I am thinking of some kind of mass charge. I have no idea what that might look like.

It also seems that the main problem is upsetting those that want to destroy America in favor of what the White Christians want to tell us how to behave and do what they say. The entire mess is needs serious attention and, hopefully, the attorney general will figure how to do that without a civil war. So far they have just managed to send out solo maniacs to kill those that don't agree with them.


As much as I hate to say it, a war of some sort is inevitable.
It will be much more like Northern Ireland's "The Troubles" because there won't be any North-South border and no state funded armies.
But make no mistake about it, our Y'all Qaeda radical Far Right faction intends to attack everyone else who isn't loyal to their aims by any means necessary and it would behoove us to prepare.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Turns out the FBI sought nuclear weapons documents, but recovered signals intelligence. Signals intelligence is intelligence-gathering by interception of signals, whether communications between people or from electronic signals not directly used in communication.

Pretty sure that Trump is screwed without the hugs and the kisses. smile

It is doubtful we will be TOLD in stark terms whether or not they found materials related to nuclear weapons.
The fact is, those types of materials fall into a category that is very much a black box, and just talking about the existence of certain materials compromises their security right from the get-go.


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