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Originally Posted by pdx rick
A jury of Trump’s peers would find him guilty. A jury made up of residence of “The Village” retirement community in Florida, probably would not find Trump guilty.

It's obvious that Trump has leveraged his grift such that he can afford (on other people's dime) to run this nonsense out to eternity, thus placing him beyond the reach of ordinary justice. Here's a shocker (NOT!) ---- plenty of other countries have been through the exact same thing many times.

Moammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, General Tojo, Louis XVI, Benito Mussolini, Nicholai Ceasescu...what do they all have in common?


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Originally Posted by Kaine
Another factor that has me leaning towards no convictions on anything is the MAGA base.

What kind of war would it start if Mr. Trump were convicted for anything? Are those that might be looking at prosecution taking that into consideration?

I could see that he would not be charged because they don't want to start a civil war.

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Originally Posted by pdx rick
A jury of Trump’s peers would find him guilty. A jury made up of residence of “The Village” retirement community in Florida, probably would not find Trump guilty.

It's obvious that Trump has leveraged his grift such that he can afford (on other people's dime) to run this nonsense out to eternity, thus placing him beyond the reach of ordinary justice. Here's a shocker (NOT!) ---- plenty of other countries have been through the exact same thing many times.

Moammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, General Tojo, Louis XVI, Benito Mussolini, Nicholai Ceasescu...what do they all have in common?

Dead, dead, and dead. And in the blink of an eye, Trump will join them. Another footnote in history of things that should be avoided. Autocratic rule in any form has proven to be unsuccessful many times over and seldom outlasts the autocrat beyond a generation or so.

Some countries get locked into a cycle of one strongman after another...


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Originally Posted by Grege
Some countries get locked into a cycle of one strongman after another...
...and Rwingers will try their best to get Ron DeSantis in as POTUS.


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Put down any insurrection that may follow and move on.
Appeasing Trump and his MAGA's is not an option.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
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Some countries get locked into a cycle of one strongman after another...
...and Rwingers will try their best to get Ron DeSantis in as POTUS.

Right now they have about a 50/50 chance of doing it. Some dream of a Don and Ron ticket and a Republican dynasty...I think American voters will get in the way of that.

And I don't believe DeSantis' anti-WOKE schtick is going to continue to play well as the years go by.

but I've been wrong before, I thought Clinton was going to win...


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Put down any insurrection that may follow and move on.
Appeasing Trump and his MAGA's is not an option.

I daresay any "insurrection" will be put down forthwith. Insurrections are usually antigovernment affairs and the government outguns the insurrectionist by a wide margin.

As far as appeasing Trump and his followers...? Trump's fate is in the hands of the courts and his followers will continue to vote Republican at every opportunity. Whether he is on the ticket or not. What would constitute "appeasement"?

If Trump gets off scot-free will you turn against Garland and Biden as the Neville Chamberlains of their time?


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Yesterday, Trump went judge-shopping and found Judge Cannon who issued a preliminary ruling in a "case" for the need of a Special Master where there is:

– no complaint
– no TRO or other ex parte motion
– no proof of service on the defendant
– no appearance by any lawyer representing the defendant

...but there’s an order from the judge advising the “parties” that the court intends to rule for the plaintiff and for the DoJ to respond by end of day Tuesday - yet the DoJ has never been served - AND - the DoJs side has not been heard. The ruling is in favor of Trump's request for a "Special Master."

That is a Trump appointed 'judge" for you. Trump and corruption go hand-and-hand. crazy


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
If you're right then we might as well just crown him King right now because the country you grew up in will cease to exist.
This is what scares me. And I am afraid it might be too late to change it. November will tell the story because I believe, this election is democracy vs autocracy.


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