I was in the, Russia and Ukraine need to negotiate a peaceful settlement before fighting breaks out, camp. Still think that way but it’s a minority opinion.

Much like Iraq. SSDD.

I would consider the amount of blood spilled, lives lost since the war broke out and the grifting off of it evidence of things having gone worse.

Again, opinions vary.

Dutch greenhouse production shutting down, metal smelting halted, derivatives energy market blowing up are just a few of the things I’d put in the gotten worse column too.

A couple I’m friends with are going to Italy for a 2 week vacay in October. I asked if they were concerned about the economic situation going on. I don’t think it was even on their radar. Should be interesting to get their impressions when they get back.

Last edited by chunkstyle; 09/09/22 12:50 AM.