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Debunked tankie arguments, yawn.

Awww.. the kapo found a new pejorative.

Too bad it’s in the congressional record that, yes, we were funding fascists. A long US history.

Gasbags gunna gaslight.

Took a second to find….

“White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday. “I am very pleased that the recently passed omnibus prevents the U.S. from providing arms and training assistance to the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion fighting in Ukraine.”

Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis

I know, I know. What fascists…

Just like what unilateral abandonment of arms treaties by the US. NATO training of Ukrainian military. US supported 2014 coup, etc etc.

Get yer ink sac squirting.

Ten to twenty percent, in 2018?
That's less than the number of white supremacists and neo-Nazis in our own military...even today.

Army soldier under investigation for saying he joined military
to become 'more proficient in killing' Black people

Funny, used to be you wanted to convince us that ALL of Ukraine was Nazi friendly.

So it's only ten to twenty percent as of 2018, now?
That's almost five years ago. What odds do you want, that there's even MORE Nazis now or less?

(HIDDEN AT THE BOTTOM: "But proponents of a ban specific to Azov say the Leahy Law did not preclude it from getting aid, since the secretary of State has never made such a determination about the group.")


Don't forget to yell "BLUEANON BLUEANON BLUEANON"....that always wins an argument, kinda like when a Trumper yells
"LIBTARD LIBTARD LIBTARD!!"

Show me where ‘ Funny, used to be you wanted to convince us that ALL of Ukraine was Nazi friendly.’

Clearly, the breakaways republics are not Nazi friendly for one. The Nazis represent a minority of Ukrainians but punch above their weight by their over representation in security and military positions. I don’t believe I ever went beyond that observation from the sources I read.

Please provide a post by me where I’ve stated what you are claiming. That ‘ALL of Ukraine is Nazi friendly’ from me.

S’funny how chicken hawk liberals have to paint you as a right winger when you take an anti-war or more leftist position from theirs.

Still waiting for a link to a post I’ve made trying to convince everyone here that all Ukraine is pro Nazi Jeff…

Hate to think you weren’t just doing the usual bloviating ink squirting.

Your defense of all things Ukraine and support of billions in US military aid packages would make Stepan Bandera proud.

Sea-lioning doesn't help your position much but if you've now pirouetted to "not many Nazis in Ukraine after all" then there must be some other reason why you're on Russia's side. People don't become tankies just for fun.

You've spent months defending Russia's position in this, and you've often turned to the Azov Battalion's Nazi problem as a crutch, so much so that it sounds an awful lot like "Ukraine Bad - Lotsa Nazis" and "Russia Good - just want to be left alone".

Dodging and deflecting doesn't help much either. Everyone is anti-war...until their homes are invaded.

Nothing I posted, just your gaslighting imagination again. Basic lying. It feels that way for Jeff, therefore it is that way. Got it. Long way of saying your full of it and lying about another posters position. Is it helping you with your feelings? If so, lie away. You will anyhow.

My position has been made by any who have read this thread. Deescalate.

Correct me if I’m wrong, Your position has been in favor of escalation by increasing military support. We can argue what positions would be a better solution. I have been by posting the resulting damage for not negotiating,

I’ve stated my opinion on the fascist situation many times. Just did again, as a matter of fact. You seem to find it hard to accept as much as Ukraine’s history of fascism in the past as well as the present situation.

When Russia starts training troops and pouring concrete for military positions a couple hundred miles from our borders, sends a battleship thru the Gulf of Mexico, I’ll take your view of Russian policies. Hell, I’ll condemn them as provocative and dangerous and can lead to conflict.

Pretty much what I’m doing now with regard to what we’ve been doing over in Ukraine. Did you catch that Jeff? What WE are doing over THERE.

Zelensky, besides outlawing opposing press, outlawing opposition political parties has also outlawed labor organizing. So much democracy. No downsides to US policy position. No downside future liabilities.

My position is: Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine has every right to kick their ass.

I'm pretty much with you.

But I'm given to believe that he invaded Ukraine because Neocons and NATO.

And is therefore somehow justified.