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Actually, Graham bill is where most Americans stand on restrictions to abortion. 69% of all Americans favor legal abortions. 60% favor legal abortions during the first trimester, but only 28% favor abortion being legal through the second trimester which leaves the remaining 9% that abortion should be legal with no restrictions. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-americans-stand-on-abortion-in-5-charts/Why condemn something that 60% of all Americans favor?
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Actually, Graham bill is where most Americans stand on restrictions to abortion. 69% of all Americans favor legal abortions. 60% favor legal abortions during the first trimester, but only 28% favor abortion being legal through the second trimester which leaves the remaining 9% that abortion should be legal with no restrictions. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-americans-stand-on-abortion-in-5-charts/Why condemn something that 60% of all Americans favor? Fifteen is a little extreme but I think most would accept a ban after 18-20 weeks, because after Week 20 you're beginning to see possible fetal viability. Be sure to add that almost everyone would make late term exceptions in cases of fetal incompatibility with life or medical emergency to the mother.
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I am just going to say this: Speaking as a gay male myself, it's none of some closet fa**ot's business what a woman does wither her body. Fck off Lindsey Graham. 
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Actually Rick, I agree. Far as I’m concerned the choice of an abortion or prostitution or whatever should be left to the woman. After all, it’s her body. But neither is an issue that will decide who I vote for. I’ve voted for both pro-life and pro-choice candidates. For me, this argument of it’s her body, she should be able to do with it as she chooses works for both above. It can’t work for one without working for the other.
Although I think personally think abortion should be legal with no restrictions. I view the first trimester limitation on abortion with exceptions for things like the life of the mother and the viability of the fetus is a commonsense approach to solving the issue. That is if both major parties want to solve it. But I’m sure it will never be solved as abortion is too hot and valuable as a campaign issue used to fire up the base than to solve it.
Since the SCOTUS ruled that the federal government, correct me if I’m wrong about this, since abortion isn’t addressed in the constitution as a power for congress, it’s left to the states. Congress can neither make abortion legal with restrictions or no restrictions and neither can congress ban abortion or make abortion illegal nationwide. Not if that power resides in the states. So it seems, at least to me, Graham’s proposal if passed would be ruled unconstitutional as it stands now, the states only have the power to control or regulate or make abortion legal or illegal.
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One of the problems with the GOP's abortion stance, is that the GOP takes a Christian point of view to the topic and ignores other religion's philosophy of abortion. For example, in Judaism, life starts when the born infant takes breath after the umbilical cord is cut.
In the conservative Christian POV, life starts when the ovum and sperm unite - which is a pretty radical idea of when life beings as fertilized egg is not viable on its own.
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With the NH primary results in, the primary season is not officially over, closed. I decided to review some of the primaries. The GOP primary in NH comes close to guaranteeing incumbent D Hassan will win and keep her senate seat. OH, AZ, GA, NC, PA are other states where the GOP has gone for a weak general election candidate over a candidate that stood a better chance at winning over independents and winning in the general election. The same goes for some governor races. It seems the Republicans this year have nominated a bunch of poor general election candidates. One can conclude that the Republicans this year, weren’t all that interested in coming up with good candidates that had a good chance of winning. They were more interested in nominating Trump endorsed or chosen candidates even if those candidates were poor choices for the winning the general election. Reducing the chances, the odds of winning in the general election in order to make a primary statement. Which is very good news for the Democrats.
Perhaps the Republicans don’t care if the Democrats retain power along with their control of congress. Republicans were more interested in helping Trump get his revenge against candidates that aren't 100% loyal to him than winning in November. Their poor choices of candidates sure seem to show that.
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Major events can and do change how elections playout. Today, the Democrats whether on purpose or just the way things worked out, the focus for this midterm has switched from inflation to Trump. At least among independents. But the one event if it happens that could easily bring the attention back to inflation, rising prices, empty shelves in stores is the looming railroad strike. Looming railroad strike could cripple US economy, transportation https://abcnews.go.com/Business/loo...economy-transportation/story?id=89587287Now I said if this happens and how long it lasts. The possibility is there. If food, other items prices continue rise, empty shelves begin to reappear in stores, the democrats could feel the full blame. Right, wrong or indifferent, Independents are quick to blame those in charge when their wallets begin to thin and go flat.
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If food, other items prices continue rise, empty shelves begin to reappear in stores, the democrats could feel the full blame. Right, wrong or indifferent, Independents are quick to blame those in charge when their wallets begin to thin and go flat. This just in... "Democrats control the nation's railroads" In other news: ![[Linked Image from pbs.twimg.com]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fcn6NSGWQAAIA0l.jpg)
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