Originally Posted by chunkstyle
I’m just guessing here. Your ‘negotiating with Trump’ is pretty vague. Is it snark or are you being serious? I’m leaning towards snark. As usual.

Apparently you THINK it's vague but if so, give us ONE instance where ANYONE (other than a judge in court holding all the cards) has been able to negotiate ANYTHING with Trump where Trump compromised for the good of anyone other than himself.

If you think it's possible to negotiate with Putin, show me any other country that Putin has gone to war with that negotiated a peaceful cessation of said war. Ukraine declared its independence from the USSR on 24 August 1991.
On 8 December 1991 USSR ceased to exist.

Since then, Putin has been determined to reestablish Russian power over these former republics, having "a bite of everybody else's" as is apparently Russian custom going back at least as far as Kruschev.
He wants Ukraine back under Russian control but apparently Ukraine has other ideas...like maybe self-determination.

But you seem to think it's all our fault and that somehow Putin can be negotiated with.
Show us how this would work, please and show us how Ukraine would fare in such negotiations, or at least, explain how you think Ukraine would benefit. We already have a fairly good reckoning how Putin would benefit, methinks.


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