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How in the world could the BBC have been so wrong….



Sheesh, howd them Nazis get 4 ministry’s, including the defense ministry, after the coup?

I hope there’s been a shakeup at the BBC and they now got their head right.

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Anyhow, this information is easy to come across. Ditto how it impacted Ukraines internal politics, scuttled Minsk 1 & 2, etc

A question that’s been gnawing at me, though, is why a self described son of Jewish emigres from eastern Germany has difficulty accessing this recent history?

Unless…. Oh god! Why didn’t I see it before?!

PUTIN!!!!!!!

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Back to economic time playing out with the sh!t show. Somehow Europe, that’s committed economic suicide but isn’t fully aware of it, has somehow managed to put another round in the chamber and convinced itself pulling the trigger would be another good idea:

‘The G7-led idea of putting a price cap on Russian oil may look brilliant in theory, but it would likely be very messy in practice, potentially sending oil prices soaring. Surging oil prices are exactly what the price cap is meant to avoid, as it aims to keep Russian oil flowing but at a lower price.’

A Price Cap On Russian Oil Could Cause A Supply Catastrophe

Question still stands, though the present EU circumstances may have answered it already. Is it better to be a commodity producer or consumer, etc.. Time will tell, I guess.

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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
How in the world could the BBC have been so wrong….



Sheesh, howd them Nazis get 4 ministry’s, including the defense ministry, after the coup?

I hope there’s been a shakeup at the BBC and they now got their head right.

Wait, ONE GUY....ONE...said something mumble mumble the Jews. ONE guy.
Uh ohhhh...
Hey I don't think very highly of him either, okay?
But he's ONE guy.

At the very start of the clip a youngster, couldn't be more than eighteen said that "not all of us endorse the far Right views but some of us do" and when asked to elaborate: Mumble mumble "clean country --- Ukraine for Ukrainians" and when pressed about Crimea and Russians: "They can move to Russia".

What exactly ARE you expecting from these kids, anyway?
Might have helped yourself if you had actually WATCHED the clip. LOL

Now this on the other hand:

[Linked Image from rollingstone.com]

This is LOCAL, as in Youngstown, Ohio.
Your tsunami of strawmen and fermented BS is falling apart however I noticed a pattern emerging.
You seem to like using a tactic cultivated by the Russians.

I think it's called 'whataboutism'....with a dash of sea-lioning thrown in.


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During World War Two, heating energy, tires, gasoline, even food was being rationed, in Europe AND in the USA.
Surprising what people are called upon to do in sacrifice for being able to continue living in a democratic country, isn't it?
By the way, while you were stroking the GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA GALICIA thing, I recall you never answered how all these Nazis seemed okay with getting behind a Jewish president.

Several people here have asked you and you've dodged repeatedly.
I gave the best answer I know how to on Galicia, sorry you aren't satisfied with it.
Oh well, please carry on with your whataboutism blizzard.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Anyhow, this information is easy to come across. Ditto how it impacted Ukraines internal politics, scuttled Minsk 1 & 2, etc

A question that’s been gnawing at me, though, is why a self described son of Jewish emigres from eastern Germany has difficulty accessing this recent history?

Unless…. Oh god! Why didn’t I see it before?!

PUTIN!!!!!!!

Frankfurt is in Eastern Germany?
Since when?
At the time my father and grandfather were rowing around on their private lake in Frankfurt (1920's) Eastern Germany did not yet exist.

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In fact, even when I was the little tyke on my grandmother's lap in New York (where they finally landed in 1950) it STILL did not exist.
Maybe in all your desperate whatabouting frenzy you are getting a few details mixed up, but hey...don't let that slow down your frenzy.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Max Blumenthal, DNC strategist and Clinton alum Sydney Blumenthal’s left leaning son seems to have been delusional when he produced this piece a few years back
His Delusional reporting seems pretty thorough though..




Oddly, unlike the major media companies, who in no way ever manufactured consent for any American led SMO’s in recent decades, uh uh, nosiree, he’s still staying consistent with regard to his earlier reporting.

I think he’s recently earned himself some kind of ‘Russian propagandist designation for his consistency

2018, Putin had not yet invaded Ukraine, am I right or wrong?
Anyway, our interest in Ukraine was being modulated by your buddy Trump, yes?
Are you a secret Horseshoe Theory lefty who has gone so far around the bend that your ass end is taking over the front end or are you simply not concerned about how our foreign policy toward a NON-NATO country only takes shape when a hostile adversary decides to pull the trigger?
After all, if you're going to craft a narrative that sounds like "Dems bad, supporting Nazis" don't you want to take a second to ponder what would happen if Trump had gotten true carte blanche and handed Ukraine over to Putin with our blessing?

Do you believe Ukraine would suddenly turn commie?
Explain how any such peace and security agreement with Putin would have stopped or even SLOWED his decision to erase Ukraine altogether as a sovereign nation.
After all, while you were busy claiming I had no REAL words from Putin, you seem to have ignored the fact that I actually quoted the man.

Slow down and read more carefully and fail less next time.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Here’s that BBC banging on about a fun bunch of reveled?

Say! That’s that Bandera dude. They sure like em some Bandera



Wonder what the BBC is saying bout em now..

Is Bandera still in the halls of government today or is he at Mar-A-Lago?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Oh wait, he's fcuking DEAD, that's right.

Did you want us Ranters to reanimate him?


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On the other hand, some Jews were down with fascists so who am I to judge?

Yeah, some of them are down with the fash right here.
Did you even realize that?


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I dunno Jeff, but you seem kinda denialy about fascist in Ukraine then (ww2) and now. It looks as though you only see em in the US, especially in your loyal opposition party.

How… odd….

Any how, I guess like Holocaust deniars, you’ll do the same with Ukraines history, both past and present, if it’s inconvenient to your narrative and, even worse, lends even a hint of credibility you your Doc Doom nemesis Putin.

Say Jeff, what happened to all them Ukrainian Jews in Galicia during WW2? Was that an ethnic cleansing?

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