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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Here’s that BBC banging on about a fun bunch of reveled?

Say! That’s that Bandera dude. They sure like em some Bandera



Wonder what the BBC is saying bout em now..

Is Bandera still in the halls of government today or is he at Mar-A-Lago?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Oh wait, he's fcuking DEAD, that's right.

Did you want us Ranters to reanimate him?

Actually, and hilariously, there’s been several interviews of Ukraine officials having portraits of Bandera hanging on walls of public buildings. Roads have been named after him as well as statues and monuments since the US coup of 2014.

You know who else is dead? Hitler. Try that logic of yours on the next Jew going on about the Holocaust. Lemme know how that works out for ya.

Here’s NPR doing a dive in 2014:

‘ In 2010, Ukraine's government officially recognized Bandera as a national hero, a move that was condemned by the European Parliament among others. The next year, a new government annulled that award after a domestic and international outcry.

Meanwhile, Russia's propaganda machine has worked for the past half-century to portray Bandera as an unvarnished villain.’

Hero Or Villain? Historical Ukrainian Figure Symbolizes Today's Feud

I like how ‘Russian propaganda machine’ is doing a lot of work there but it’s funny how European Parliament officially condemned the move. Which is it? Russian propaganda or an act worthy of EU condemnation. The article makes some good points though.

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Seriously Jeff, you should take it upon yourself to contact the papers that have done all this reporting of the Ukrainian fascist. Let the editors know how bad a job they’ve done and that the real threat is the history of Holdomor.

Start with this report Mebbe?

Ukraine must acknowledge the genocide of Poles by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) in World War II, a Polish official says.

Warsaw has proposed a joint commission to exhume mass graves and give victims a proper burial, but received no response from Kiev, Deputy Culture Minister Jaroslaw Sellin told reporters on Tuesday.

Ukrainian authorities have rebuffed protests from Poland and Israel about their glorification of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and his organisation the UPA, which massacred over 130,000 Jews and Poles in an ethnic cleansing programme during the second world war.

Poland says Ukraine must recognise Bandera’s genocide during WWII

Go get em Jeff!

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Look Jeff, I found another one for you to go after. Politico of all places!

“ Melnyk’s remarks triggered an outcry in Germany, but the backlash was even heavier in Poland — one of Ukraine’s staunchest supporters in the war against Russia — where the foreign ministry officially complained to Kyiv.

Israel’s embassy to Germany had also condemned Melnyk’s remarks, saying that “the statement made by the Ukrainian ambassador is a distortion of the historical facts, belittles the Holocaust and is an insult to those who were murdered by Bandera and his people.”

Zelenskyy recalls controversial ambassador to Germany

Seriously, this is so easy to do. One wonders at your incurious position.

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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Look Jeff, I found another one for you to go after. Politico of all places!

“ Melnyk’s remarks triggered an outcry in Germany, but the backlash was even heavier in Poland — one of Ukraine’s staunchest supporters in the war against Russia — where the foreign ministry officially complained to Kyiv.

Funny that Poland is accepting Ukrainian refugees by...what is it, the millions now...or close to it, right?
You'd think Poland would say "Not only no, but Hell no", yet there they are, opening their country in a compassionate welcome to what you say must be their mortal enemies.
And at the request of Ukraine's Jewish prezzy.
Something in your argument isn't adding up.


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Es mi barrio, homes.
Chunk, you almost sound like the grandmother in My Big Fat Greek Wedding, who thought everybody around her were "bloodthirsty Turks".



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You've heard the Greeks and Turks are at it again right...?

This just in from Warsaw...

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By MONIKA SCISLOWSKA - Associated Press

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania closed their borders Monday to most Russian citizens in response to the wide domestic support in Russia for the war in Ukraine.

Under the coordinated travel ban, Russians wishing to travel to the Baltic countries or Poland as tourists or for business, sports or cultural purposes will not be allowed in even if they hold valid visas for the European Union's checks-free Schengen Area.

The prime ministers of the three Baltic nations and Poland agreed earlier this month to stop admitting Russian citizens, saying the move would protect the security of the European Union nations neighboring Russia.

“Russia is an unpredictable and aggressive state. Three-quarters of its citizens support the war. It is unacceptable that people who support the war can freely travel around the world, into Lithuania, the EU," Lithuanian Interior Minister Agne Bilotaite said Monday.


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Riiiight!

You should take that Israeli ambassador to task. What’s he smoking? Whats Israel’s condemnation of Ukraine fascism all about? Sheesh, the fact that Jews live in Germany kinda contradicts the idea that a Holocaust happened…

Why do you rattle on about domestic fascist? They’re just a small minority. It’s not like they’ve got their own political parties, youth camps, social clubs, military formations, etc. what’s the big deal with fascism anyhow? They can’t cause problems until they convince a whole countries population to be fascist, right? That’s what the history shows right Jeff. The trouble only really gets going after everyone goes fascist, correct?

To be fair, I’m simply linking to reporting on them.


Soanyways, no one ever said Ukraine was all Nazi Jeff. That was you doing your typical conflating and mischaracterizing to make some kind of point.

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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
Why do you rattle on about domestic fascist? They’re just a small minority. It’s not like they’ve got their own political parties, youth camps, social clubs, military formations, etc.

Oh really? You're saying that our fascists DON'T have these things?
On what planet do you spend the majority of your time?


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You're saying that our fascists DON'T have these things?

I'm wondering if their fascists have tailgate parties and NASCAR?

Proud Boys and Girls all over America enjoy all the advantages of Eastern European fascists and more!


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Help me out here Jeff, your ink is getting cloudy.

Where did I say we don’t have fascist in this country?

Also, what is the point your trying to make?

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