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Yes Gregor, it’s exactly the same.

They're like cockroaches. They're everywhere, once in a while they take control and make a mess of things.

Let’s give em billions then.

That's the plan. Feel free to call if off if you think it's a mistake.

One thing I am fairly certain of at this juncture:
Ukrainians KNOW that Trump --- our so called "conservative" (right wing) president, did whatever he could to hand their country over to Putin on a silver platter.
They ALSO now know that our "liberal" president has bent over backwards to help them.

They also know that at this point, Americans are entangled in a vicious fight against extreme right wing ideology, aka "semi-fascists" in Trump's Republican Party.
And they've also now met a few Americans who are trying to help them in person, most of them not fascist in any way, shape or form.

It's a pretty safe bet all of that has been making quite an impression on them, even the Azov guys.
If I were making book on the political outcome of a victorious Ukraine some time in the future, I seriously doubt that fascism or nazism would be the coin of the realm there.

And just like every other country including ours, as time goes by, they too will have to come to grips with the various pendulum swings from one extreme to the other and they will have to make sense of it all.
I doubt that fascist apologetics will get any mileage.

If you start at the beginning of this thread, I linked to the reports of the US not willing to negotiate with Russia on any sort of security framework.

Your Trump fantasizing aside, using Ukranians to knife Russia on one side while starting brush fires elsewhere along its borders seems to be the play.

The result seems to be an acceleration of what State fears most. Full economic integration of the Eurasian continent.

At least there’ll be Trump to blame. Keeps the proles from noticing I guess.

Ukraine has been a wonderful barometer for who will go fasc.

Another point about Ukraine is how long incompetence can last.

The idea of trading a resource rich partner, Russia, for a incredibly corrupt declining state, Ukraine, shows how disconnected these Ivy boys and girls are. Perhaps, thru proxy battles, State can halt the economic integration of Eurasia but, for me anyhow, it looks like the ruling class showing their arse. Preferring blunt instruments of war than cooperation. Sure, we have Europe more dependent on the US but what does that gain them? A ghetto continent on a steep economic decline path and no end of coming civel unrest. (Flooding Poland with millions of refugees reminds me of a similar situation with Syria).

So while the fanatics at state continue to hector Americans and thr press obliges with tall tales I’m not sure how prepared we are for the long haul decline. It’s easier to fight a war and put up with hardships if you have a cause and future. The SCO looks very promising and is why more countries are joining every year. It’s also the countries that have the fastest growth, btw.

Meanwhile, the State fanatics have locked the western NATOstsn countries into a region of deceleration and decline. Russia could have been a partner for the west and arrested that decline. To bad. If we can’t take it we’ll break it seems to be the policy since ww2.

How do you now break over half the worlds population? Good times.

“ “We appreciate that the [Joe] Biden administration has been working with European allies to expand fuel exports to Europe. A similar effort should be made for New England,” a group of governors from New England wrote in a letter to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm this summer, per a Financial Times report.

The governors then went on to call on the administration to make sure there was enough LNG for American consumers, essentially asking politicians to reduce LNG exports. This does not bode well for balance in the U.S. gas market.”

A Natural Gas Shortage Is Looming For The U.S.

Should help make us stay competitive. Haven’t we transitioned to LNG as a bridge fuel for electrical generation throughout the country? May not need that 3/4% interest rate raise. Maybe demand destruction will happen thru the input channel? Dunno. Economic time may be gaining speed.

Maybe folks need to buy some of those Rolls Royce SMRs I've heard about.

The gated communities anyway...regular folks can't afford to own sh*t like that.

This little kerfuffle in Ukraine is liable to spur the renewables industries. Just as whale oil shortages caused a rise in petroleum use to meet the energy needs of the 17th century...

and the whole world smelled like kerosene.

Maybe it will spur someone to actually build one instead of just talking about it.

Putin has mobilized another 300,000 troops. He was hoping to avoid this, These aren't "seasoned troops" those are gone, dead or deserted. These are national guardsmen. Gung ho Russki boys off the streets of Gdamitskold with a little bit of rifle training and a hankering to shoot some nazi-jews! (Not to mention a taste for strong spirits and adventures with the local girls)

The more who fail to come home the weaker Putin will become.

How many nationalized Ukrainian troops are there and can they win the war of attrition that is about to ensue?

Worldwide gas markets are under revue and product is being shuffled about accordingly.

It's what worldwide markets do. Prices will flare and then settle. Germany has both coal and nuclear plants sitting idle...

But not a single SMR steadily churning out clean free energy.

And speaking of nukes, Putin has put them on the table. If they won't meet his demands he'll just kill them all.

Fair I guess...man's gotta stand up for his right to steal land and resources.