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Jeffrey, I too think we as a nation has done everything possible regarding covid. The wife and I have received both the two initial shots and the two boosters. We both still wear masks going to the store. I’d rather err on the side of being safe even if it might be overdoing it. I think not.

And Rick, I think wishing death on voters in Texas and Florida is taking partisanship a bit too far. At least for my blood. Then again, I 've never been a partisan nor affiliated myself with or for either major party. So, I never learned to hate based on party politics, ideology and partisanship.

It's no longer "party politics, ideology and partisanship" and hasn't been for well over five years, and if I am generous, certainly not since January 6th, 2021. That IS a wound that shall not heal except by a massive stroke of justice that renders insurrectionists and their leadership permanently neutered.

I think it is highly disingenuous to paint a portrait of America in which two groups are merely expressing "political differences" when one group actively attempted to violently overthrow the government and is still attempting to do so as you read this.
I would like to regard you as reasonable but the more you butter up the insurrectionists as innocent parties who are
"just expressing themselves" the more it looks like you might as well endorse "The Big Lie" openly.

Sorry, I wish the same fate on any and all enemy combatants for one simple reason: The kind of people who would do such a thing at the Capitol are the kinds of people who wouldn't hesitate to shoot ordinary citizens on the street.

After all, their hero inspired them by saying HE could do it and not lose any votes.
It all should have been brought to a screeching halt right then and there...if we were still a normal republic.


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Originally Posted by perotista
And Rick, I think wishing death on voters in Texas and Florida is taking partisanship a bit too far. At least for my blood. Then again, I 've never been a partisan nor affiliated myself with or for either major party. So, I never learned to hate based on party politics, ideology and partisanship.

????

Please show where I have done that. That is a very appalling accusation.


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Time and time again Rick, you refer to deaths by COVID as decreasing the number of voters who’ll vote Republican. Done or written in a way that at the very least implies you’re happy with the deaths form COVID in certain states so there’ll be less Republican voters.

Maybe wish was too harsh of word, I didn’t give that word much thought when I did use it. You certainly seem to be happy with the thought these COVID deaths will help the Democrats win elections as there apt to be less GOP voters. This implication has come across in many of your postings for a very long time. Numbers wise, you may be correct or maybe not. You’re not one to use numbers to back up most of your postings. Mostly emotion which is fine.

After a while posting about COVID deaths in the context as diminishing the voting strength of the GOP, it’s easy to come to the conclusion that the way you’ve used this, it’s exactly like wanting your favorite football team trying to injure the opposing team’s quarterback knocking him out of the game so your team will have a better chance of winning. That’s finally how I came to view your posts about COVID deaths will result in less GOP voters there will be. Am I wrong?

Anyway, take this for what it’s worth, there are times when phrasing something can lead to big misunderstandings or imply something that certainly wasn’t the intent. That’s happened to me before. But going back through some of your posts on COVID deaths leaving less Republican voters, the implication is there that they are benefiting the democrats and since they may be benefiting the democrats, you’re fine with it.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Some folks even consider Republicans to be "enemy combatants" As though the war was already on and the shooting had begun..

A lot of Floridians won't be able to vote this year. Because they lost their homes, and their livelihoods, some died in the storm. Many will be homeless, their lives destroyed.

Democrats have every reason to be gleeful and to celebrate that Republican lives destroyed might slightly outweigh the lives of democrats destroyed.

And that Val Demings might receive a few hundred more votes. And still lose the election.

And as joyful as Democrats are that Covid is now taking more Republican lives than Democratic lives, they need to weigh carefully the number of Democratic lives lost earlier in the pandemic when death tolls were much higher and vaccinations didn't exist yet.

If you hope to win this election across the board you need to arm yourselves and take the fight to the streets, killing as many as possible and getting your friends to kill as many as possible. If you kill enough of them then Democracy shall reign forever and anyone who disagrees with you will be killed.

That's how democracy works y'know.


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Originally Posted by perotista
Time and time again Rick, you refer to deaths by COVID as decreasing the number of voters who’ll vote Republican. .
I don't make up those numbers. Those numbers are facts. My use of those numbers are simply to point out that there will be fewer voters in November 2022. THAT too is a fact.

Those fewer voters WILL impact election results is my argument.


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I suppose those choosing not to arm themselves against a worldwide pandemic is the same thinking and rational that lead them to choose not to purchase flood insurance.

Clearly, their inability to take facts and reason with them and come to a sane, rational conclusion, is a problem. If they're making poor choices for themselves in their own lives, then they're making poor choices for their neighbors when they vote. You can't separate the two.

Poor choices in life leads to poor results.


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I suppose those choosing not to arm themselves against a worldwide pandemic is the same thinking and rational that lead them to choose not to purchase flood insurance.

I don't suppose you have any idea what flood insurance costs do you? Many of those same people are retirees living on fixed incomes...they can't afford it.

Many lived in rental properties whose landlords neither have nor are required to carry flood insurance. It's a luxury reserved mostly for those who can afford not to have flood insurance.

I lived in a flood zone for 44 years...I could never consider flood insurance simply because it was too expensive. The last 20 years there I didn't even have homeowners insurance for the same reason. Property insurance is expensive here because we have hurricanes. I couldn't even afford to remove the trees near my house so I could qualify for homeowners insurance.

If you don't have a mortgage you don't even need home insurance. And flood insurance is completely optional. If it hasn't flooded in your area for 500 years it makes little sense to do without food so you can pay for insurance you probably will never need.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
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Time and time again Rick, you refer to deaths by COVID as decreasing the number of voters who’ll vote Republican. .
I don't make up those numbers. Those numbers are facts. My use of those numbers are simply to point out that there will be fewer voters in November 2022. THAT too is a fact.

Those fewer voters WILL impact election results is my argument.
Okay, I’ll buy that. But stress the fewer voter, not just Republican voters. But I’m not sure there’ll be fewer voters. The number of voters this midterm will most likely be more than the 2018 midterm which were more than the 2014 midterm, etc. Now the percent of the total eligible voters who turnout to vote may be less than 2018 as the percentage for that election was very high. In 2018, the turnout percentage was 50% of eligible voters. Way higher than the 40% historical average for a midterm. In fact, the 50% turnout for the 2018 midterm was a record high historically. We’ve had presidential elections that had lower voter turnout than that. 49% turnout in 1996 for example. In 2014 the turnout was 38%.


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As I pointed out in earlier posts, first time voter registration of people who normally sit-out is up and it’s woman 2:1. And, as I also keep pointing out, this year’s mid-terms will be unlike any other and I predict, based on what I am reading, will be record-setting just as 2020 records a were broken.

As everyone knows, when record-setting voting occurs - that favors the Democrats. smile


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I suppose those choosing not to arm themselves against a worldwide pandemic is the same thinking and rational that lead them to choose not to purchase flood insurance.

I don't suppose you have any idea what flood insurance costs do you? Many of those same people are retirees living on fixed incomes...they can't afford it.

I do. Flood insurance is about $4300/year. That is a lot of money.


Then (1) don’t purchase property there, and/or (2) don’t keep voting for politicians who insinuate their political opposition with NAZI Germany simply because NAZIs used the term “socialist” in their name incorrectly ( NAZIs where fascists, not socialists) and then ask for some of that sweet government relief money - which is socialism. If you don't like socialism - don't like socialism all the way - not when its convenient for you at the voting booth.


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