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Trump hasn't been convicted of any crimes, except on the internet.

He remains (sort of) a free man, and is allowed to roam free because that's how we do it in America. Your hatred isn't enough to get people locked up yet, but give it time. Democrats seem to want that kind of power just as much as Republicans.

He also remains in custody and under guard at all times.

Unless you still believe the US Secret Service is totally under Trump's control...

Apparently, you still believe he's gonna be our next president and will eliminate voting in favor of royal decree. And that Trump's children will be heirs to his throne.

I think it's all bullsh*t. He's a has-been, a loser, an ugly piece of history kept alive by media and the righteous indignation of partisan Democrats who need desperately to see him locked up.

I think it's kind of sad that one man takes up so much space in your heads that he's literally all you can talk about. Year after year, thread after thread it's TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP and little else. Two years after his defeat!

Trump still holds rallies because it's all he's got. His brand is toxic, his very name is toxic.

He's little more than a turd in the punchbowl at this point even if some candidates he backed win some elections. The world has already moved on. Maybe you should too.


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Originally Posted by Greger
He also remains in custody and under guard at all times.

Unless you still believe the US Secret Service is totally under Trump's control...
Trump's SS guys are definitely Team Trump - not Team America. The fact that their government issued phones were erased after J6 validates my supposition.


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I doubt the Secret Service would assign Trump loyalists to guard Trump now. As EX-president, Trump does not get to pick who his SS team members will be. They will do their job, and even take a bullet for Trump if need be, because that's what they all swore to do. But the second there is a federal arrest warrant for him, they will turn him in. If he tries to flee, they will stop him. Because that's their job.

Just look what they did on January 6th, when Trump demanded they take him to the capital to lead his riot. These agents WERE Trump loyalists, and they still did their job. I think more than any other law enforcement agency, SS agents have a fanatic dedication to do the job. Probably because am important part of their job is to die doing it, if need be.


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Nah, PIA, you don't understand...TRUMP controls everything! He's a supergenius with godlike powers.


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Originally Posted by Greger
[Trump is] a supergenius with godlike powers.
Greger, now you're just being silly. crazy


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Sorry guys but I'd trust members of the MS-13 cartel enforcers more than I'd trust today's Secret Service.


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Bill Barr is one of the traitors who needs to pay his comeuppance for his role in allowing Trump's criminal behavior to continue. Barr wrote a "summary" of the Mueller Report that did not summarize the report at all. Barr's "summary" bears no resemblance to reality.

No matter how Barr spun it, the fact is that special counsel Robert S. Mueller's Russia report didn’t exonerate Trump. In fact, Mueller made it quite clear that he had found extensive evidence of Trump's obstruction of justice. Mueller compared the evidence to the legal standards for that crime and suggested that those standards might well have been satisfied in at least five instances. Mueller simply decided he couldn’t personally accuse a sitting president of crimes - which is bullshyte, because there are no laws stating this - it's only a DOJ recommendation.


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State legislature choose the electors in our early days ... No popular vote
I stand sorta corrected .... but not so fast.

Still you statements are misleading. While there were not political parties in the modern sense, there were political parties which did offer candidates and political agendas. Further, the statement there were no popular votes or more correctly I believe no direct popular presidential votes is incorrect. As in every general election presidential candidates have been voted on. In fact while some state legislatures did in fact select electors, their vote was determined by the popular vote in each of their states i.e. the electors did not simply vote willy-nilly. This evolved to the modern system.

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anything involving Trump makes no sense
I have been trying to tell people all the rules you once knew are no longer valid in the age of Trump. When you say, "It can't happen in America", well throw that out the window because it can happen and almost did. All political thinking no longer has boundaries. Trump is a modern day Pandora. The Republican base of deplorables has been released from the box for whom elected Republicans have apologized for the last 40 years.

So when you say Republican election boards won't overturn election results, remember what you said .... anything involving Trump makes no sense .... in a world in which nothing may make sense, everything is possible

Rep Pelosi said it best, "Do you believe this?"


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Wow!!!

I think you completely misunderstand the Trump phenomenon particularly in relationship to Democrats.

Despite the fact I am an independent, I don't hate Trump nor do I hate Charles Manson. If these folks have committed crimes then they should be held accountable.

Someone asked this question, why do Democrats fear Trump? Wellll .... its not because he is a delusional narcissist, compelled to lie with every breathe .... not because he led one of the most corrupt administrations since Pres Grant .... not because he grabs puzzy and thinks he is entitled to do so .... not because he pushes the tax liability envelope .... etc. Anyone who believes n Democracy should fear him because he has exposed the erosion of the fundamental democratic institutions which have developed over the last 240 years, because he has unleashed a large chunk of voters who believe in an alternate reality in which only Trump can be believed, because Trump is on command of that base who are willing to destroy Democracy should Trump give the word.

So if Democracy is an idea with any value for which many Men have fought and died not just defending but creating, then it should motivate one to think about what a world is like without Democracy.

I, for one, just as 13 of my ancestors in 1776, plan to resist


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Trump is a modern-day Pandora. The Republican base of deplorables has been released from the box for whom elected Republicans have apologized for the last 40 years.

And just as Pandora is a myth...so too Trump's status of having godlike powers over good and evil.

The deplorables flocked to him like flies to sh*t. They smeared the body politic with feces just as they smeared their country's capital with it. But that still doesn't make Trump the Lord of Flies.

It's the same crowd of morons who were the TEA Party, which morphed into the Freedom Caucus, which morphed into the Trump Phenomenon. We know where they came from, they're the racist wing of the Republican Party which migrated en masse from the Democratic Party during the civil rights movement. They've been around forever and will always be around.

Trump gave them a bully pulpit for a while, even became a Golden Calf for a time, but just as Moses came down from the mountaintop and shattered the false god...

Democracy booted his ass out.


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