Originally Posted by Greger
History shows that it's all pretty normal stuff, politics as usual, so to speak. What's odd is that you seem to feel it's all freakishly abnormal and spells the end of civilization as we know it.

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Did TRUMP succeed in scuttling Biden's transition? Technically "NO"

Did Trump succeed at staying in office? Also technically "no". Perhaps you'd like to list a few things Trump succeeded at? Or explain to me how his many many failures translate into successes in your alternate world?

Silly me, I guess I am in the minority when I daresay that partisan politics has no place in the Secret Service, FBI, DoD or SCOTUS. What the MAGAts have succeeded at is staying out of prison.
No no no not the ordinary peasant MAGAts, the elites.
And that's what Trump HAS succeeded at and will succeed at.

If this was the 1930's I guess you'd be one of the folks calling "The Business Plot" just normal politics.
Perhaps if the folks behind that had been hung we wouldn't have had to endure January 6th.
Folks back then would have learned not to mount insurrections aimed at overthrowing the government.

Did I use the word civilization? Nope, but I will use the word democracy, even though that apparently doesn't hold much value in your world.
Trump has succeeded at turning us into an increasingly violent and self-destructive quasi-fascist theocracy with better strip malls.

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