Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 J6: Putting it all together

It was my first day back to work and I did not see/follow the hearings live.

The fact that Pelosi and Schumer tried to get help to the Capitol defeats the Trump/MAGAt narrative that Pelosi DID NOT do anything to help the situation by calling in the National Guard.

J6: Putting it all together

• Donald Trump planned to falsely declare that he won the 2020 election months before Election Day
• As the votes were still being counted on Nov. 3, 2020, Trump held a rally in New York City, where he asserted without evidence that he had defeated Joe Biden
• President Trump allegedly conspired with key influential conservative activists, as early as July, to claim victory and declare that the election was stolen
• Steve Bannon audio reveals Trump planned to claim early victory
• Trump's premeditated plan was to declare victory no matter what the actual result was. He made a plan to stay in office before Election Day
• Trump's plan was concocted in advance
• Steve Bannon: What Trump is going to do is just declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory. That doesn’t mean he’s the winner. He’s just going to say he’s the winner
• Roger Stone: The key thing to do is to claim victory. Possession is nine-tenths of the law
• GOP lawmakers and news pundits pre-planned tactics with a narrative before elections in July started and executed the plan when Trump did lose
• Trump's conspired with lawyer, John Eastman, and the chairs of state Republican parties around the country to submit slates of fake electors
• When Trump's attempted to appoint DOJ underling Jeffrey Clark as acting attorney general effort ended after other officials at Justice and Trump's White House counsel, Pat Cipollone, threatened to resign in protest
• Trump's planned weeks before Jan. 6, to send an angry mob to the Capitol after his speech on the Ellipse.
• Trump knew the mob would be armed and equipped with military equipment such as Kevlar vests, tactical helmets, riot shields, handguns and rifles
• The Trump White House and Secret Service knew the mob would be armed
• Knowing that his term was coming to an end, Trump signed a memo on Nov. 11 ordering an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Somalia discounting the Rwing narrative that Joe Biden withdrew from Afghanistan hastily
• National security and military leaders warned the Trump Administration that the order would have catastrophic consequences

Don't forget

[*]Roger Stone: "F*** the voting, let's get to the violence!"

Are those still going on? I didn't need to be convinced of his guilt so I haven't watched any of them.

Has ANY evidence been presented that might point to his innocence? Does any such evidence exist? Is there any chance he is innocent of anything? Any question of his guilt??

I eagerly await the results but don't expect them to be earth-shattering in their scope. Sort of a rescinsion of the participation trophy he was awarded for not actually winning an election.

I expect their final report will come out on Jan 6 and that it will be damning. And I expect they will dump that hot potato in the laps of the next House and its new leadership after making their recommendations.

It will be one more opportunity for Republicans everywhere to debase themselves before the Golden Calf. To make themselves look like fools in the eyes of most of the world and future American voters.

And they'll take it....nice. An ironic ending. And a damning beginning for the next House.

And that's the way the next season of US Congress Shenanigans will begin...

That FBI documents case is criminal and it's got teeth. If anything is liable to go anywhere, it's that one.

Please don't be offended when I tell you that if you haven't even bothered to watch any of the hearings, that it explains a lot of your "What, Me Worry?" outlook.
Sorry Greger, if you didn't follow the hearings AT ALL, and you're here on CHB laughing at folks and casting aspersions at their concerns and implying that they might be a tad hysterical, in reality you don't have any frame of reference, sir.

Trump's guilt is part of what went down at the hearings but the hearings covered a mountain of stuff APART from the simple matter of his guilt or innocence.

Now at least I understand why you've been chuckling and muttering "What's all the hubbub about, where's the fire, it's business as usual, nothing to see here, move along, stay off my lawn."

Yes, or as I called it, "THE BROW BEATING" ....

It was like being verbally waterboarded for over a year, a constant din:

"Huh? Huh?? HUH??? Why dintcher precious Pelosi DO SUMPIN bout it??"

Jeffery, all I care about is how this sh*t turns out. I watched the Jan 6 riot just like everyone else. The hearings have revealed nothing we didn't already know or suspect.

I read the news, I don't need to stay glued to the screen, He's guilty of everything.

Just as we already knew or suspected.

He'll probably skate just in the manner I've predicted above.

Nothing more than a clear concise evaluation of events as I see them rolling along.

Perhaps you think things will turn out differently? How? Do you think they'll be able to resist releasing the final report on Jan 6?

The House is about to change hands, this investigation is over.

The issue Greger, is that J6 was not just about Trump. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of Americans who supported the J6 effort. THAT is the problem - there are other Americans who think just like him. Thinking like Trump is a problem for American democracy.

Heck, we even have a federal "judge' in Florida doing Trump's bidding to delay the FBI investigation into this obvious espionage.

If Trump "skates" that will definitely have a negative effect on our democracy. I don't see Trump skating.

Of course a Republican House will want the investigation to be over. They're not honest about what happened on J6 - 2/3rds over American voting Republicans think that J6 is no big deal or it didn't happen the way the J6 Committee says it did. THAT's a problem.

Survive is a loaded term because living things can survive all kinds of disasters but societies and civilizations, not so much.
Rod Serling put it best.



If you're nonchalant about America becoming a mob, foaming at the mouth and giving itself license to its basemost instincts and spreading that evangel to the world at large, I just have no idea what to say to you about that, but I guarantee you that the damage will be permanent and long after we're all in the ground, our children and their children will curse the folks who thought that way.

It almost sounds like you don't really place all that much value on the ideas that made America possible in the first place.
To put it bluntly, sounds like "you just don't give a s*** anymore", and that's sad.
Nobody can MAKE you give a s***, and I realize that.
Most of us still do though.