WE NEED YOUR HELP! Please donate to keep ReaderRant online to serve political discussion and its members. (Blue Ridge Photography pays the bills for RR).
Current Topics
Round Table for Spring 2024
by jgw - 06/02/24 05:30 PM
2024 Election Forum
by perotista - 06/02/24 01:50 AM
A question
by jgw - 05/31/24 07:06 PM
No rubbers for Trump
by pdx rick - 05/31/24 04:30 PM
Marching in favor of Palestinians
by jgw - 05/26/24 06:45 PM
Yeah, Trump admits he is a pure racist
by pdx rick - 05/14/24 07:28 PM
Trump's base having second thoughts
by pdx rick - 05/14/24 07:25 PM
Watching the Supreme Court
by pdx rick - 05/14/24 07:07 PM
Trump: "Anti-American authoritarian wannabe
by Doug Thompson - 05/05/24 03:27 PM
Fixing/Engineer the Weather
by jgw - 05/03/24 10:52 PM
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 9 guests, and 1 robot.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Agnostic Politico, Jems, robertjohn, BlackCat13th, ruggedman
6,305 Registered Users
Popular Topics(Views)
10,131,417 my own book page
5,021,748 We shall overcome
4,201,042 Campaign 2016
3,796,592 Trump's Trumpet
3,019,205 3 word story game
Top Posters
pdx rick 47,292
Scoutgal 27,583
Phil Hoskins 21,134
Greger 19,831
Towanda 19,391
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
jgw 5
Kaine 1
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics17,091
Posts313,849
Members6,305
Most Online294
Dec 6th, 2017
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 61 of 86 1 2 59 60 61 62 63 85 86
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Oprah endorsed Fetterman. Mehmet is too extreme for Oprah.


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 17,132
Likes: 250
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 17,132
Likes: 250
Originally Posted by pdx rick
Oprah endorsed Fetterman. Mehmet is too extreme for Oprah.

That is probably as close to any mea culpa as we will ever get from her but it does still speak volumes.
I think Oprah is a good and kind soul but I also think she is easily bamboozled.

Or perhaps that's all in the past, and her actions now speak a different path of growth and personal development.
Maybe the easily charmed Oprah of the Eighties and Nineties has given way to a more skeptical one blessed now with critical thinking.


"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Georgians keep up record pace of early voting ahead of Election Day

Will Georgia once again keep America from slipping into Rwing fascism as they did in Jan 2021?


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
An analysis done by Simon Rosenberg shows there appears to be a "ferocious" GOP effort to "flood the zone with their polls, game the averages, declare the election is tipping to them." He says that while it's entirely possible for Republicans to win in many of the elections next week, the polling and early turnout numbers so far suggest there's not really any sudden shift to the GOP - especially not if there's strong turnout by young voters upset by the GOP lawsuits blocking student aid forgiveness and taking abortion rights away.

Rosenberg warned that media organizations are being "played" if they uncritically report polling averages like those from FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics, given the number of GOP-aligned polls being added in recent weeks in key states. Just look, he says, at the percentages of polls the GOP-friendly groups have been doing in states Republicans consider competitive, compared to polling in states where Republicans don't think there'll be much movement.

[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]


It's not just Rosenberg, either; Tom Bonier, CEO of Progressive data firm TargetSmart, pointed out Friday that an "avalanche" of GOP polling - some relying on an "older, whiter, more male" sample of voters than in the actual electorate - was making it look like Republicans were moving ahead.

[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]


Digging further into that particular one-day poll is eye opening; it shows Republican Gov. Brian Kemp with almost 20 percent of the Black vote, which is...nah, not likely. A recent survey of Black voters in Georgia showed only 15 percent had a "favorable" view of Kemp, and that's not even the same as saying they'd vote for him.

The influx of GOP polling showing Herschel Walker suddenly up three points - which has brought him within a point of Sen. Raphael Warnock in the FiveThirtyEight aggregate - all appeared well after news stories about Walker's having paid for an abortion. As Kerrey Eleveld explains at Daily Kos, until around October 21, Warnock had a fairly steady three or four-point lead.

Roughly half of the polls included in recent swing-state averages have come from Republican-aligned firms.

Media loves a good bait-click story and they're certainly setting themselves up for good stories about "stolen elections" if the Dems sweep the House and Senate as Michael Moore predicts will happen. These right-leaning polls are not only misleading, they are dangerous.

Republicans all ready amped up from Trump's 2020 election lies will claim "we were ahead in the polls - now look at what happened! There were stolen elections! Election fraud! The polls are the 'proof' " - which will give them the excuse for more J6s.


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 17,132
Likes: 250
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 17,132
Likes: 250
Originally Posted by pdx rick
Media loves a good bait-click story and they're certainly setting themselves up for good stories about "stolen elections" if the Dems sweep the House and Senate as Michael Moore predicts will happen. These right-leaning polls are not only misleading, they are dangerous.

The REAL problem with Jon Stewart

"The rise of right-wing media successfully conflated news and opinion, driving down the public's trust in the news media and journalists."
(ROBERT IGER, FORMER PRESIDENT - ABC NEWS)

---It's not supposed to BE that way.
It never WAS supposed to BE that way.
You cannot "conflate news and opinion" and make them equal because news is supposed to be based on FACTS, while opinion is best defined by "The Dude"...
"Well YOU KNOW, that's just like...your OPINION, man."

[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]


"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,292
Likes: 16
K
enthusiast
Offline
enthusiast
K
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,292
Likes: 16
Quote
These right-leaning polls are not only misleading, they are dangerous.
For me, when I see polls leaning to the opposing team, that just gives me more incentive to get to the voting station. I don't throw in the rag and sit out.


Good doesn't always win!
1 member likes this: pdx rick
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
TargetEarly is a voting data dashboard for early data trends. TargetEarly has found that more than 80,000 18 to 29 year old voters have already voted in the state of Pennsylvania. Compare these results to the numbers in 2018 - and we get stunning results. The data shows in the year 2018, only 28,500 voters of this age bracket voted in PA.

This early trending is exactly what NPR predicted of younger voters motivated to vote due to student loan forgiveness being tied-up by GOP lawsuits and GOP legislation taking away abortion rights.

[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Unaffiliated voters tired of Boebert’s lies
Hopefully enough voters in CO-3 feel the same way. We’ll know Wednesday. smile


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,828
Likes: 55
enthusiast
Offline
enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,828
Likes: 55
My forecast for tomorrow is a 50-49 GOP edge in the senate with GA going to a runoff to determine control. The Republicans gain 15-20 house seats giving them control of the house.

Now there are several states which are still within the margin of errorr, plus or minus 3 points. Here’s the states taking the MOE into consideration. It’s always very important to take the margin of error into consideration.

AZ D Kelly up by 1 – Kelly could be ahead by 4 or down by 2
NV R Laxalt up by 3 – Laxalt could be ahead by 6 or tied
PA D Fetterman, R Oz tied – Either candidate could be up by 3 or down by 3
GA R Walker up by 1 – Walker could be up by 4 or down by 2 when the MOE is taken into consideration.
NH D Hassan up by 1 – Hassan could be up by 4 or down by 2
WI R Johnson up by 3 – Johnson could be tied or up by 6
WA D Murray up by 3 – Murray could be tied or up by 6

Most prognosticators would rate all the above states as tossups. But I don’t do tossups. I give AZ, PA, NH, WA to the Democrats, NV WI to the Republicans with GA going to a runoff on 6 Dec 2022.

The house looks like a GOP gain of 15-20 seats as independents, the non-affiliated, the less to non-partisan voters seem to be breaking toward the GOP.

One needs to realize in the last four elections, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020 the polls underestimated the Republican vote. The question is, did the polling firms correct this problem. If not, the Republicans are facing a darn good midterm. If the Pollsters over corrected, underestimating the Democratic vote, then there a good chance the Democrats will do well, keeping control of the senate and limiting Republican gains in the house to around 10. I highly doubt the polling firms have got this right on. They'ore never right on.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Member
CHB-OG
OP Offline
Member
CHB-OG
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47,292
Likes: 355
Originally Posted by pdx rick
An analysis done by Simon Rosenberg shows there appears to be a "ferocious" GOP effort to "flood the zone with their polls, game the averages, declare the election is tipping to them."

...

Rosenberg warned that media organizations are being "played" if they uncritically report polling averages like those from FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics, given the number of GOP-aligned polls being added in recent weeks in key states.

smile


Contrarian, extraordinaire


Page 61 of 86 1 2 59 60 61 62 63 85 86

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5