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The Dems completely flipped the Michigan state government, Arizona state government, and Minnesota state government. THAT is a wave. Not bad for midterm voting is it? smile


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It appears that Fetternan’s endorsement by Oprah was more beneficial than Trump’s endorsement of Oz.


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You really need to keep in mind that a lot of late-counted votes in some states are mail-in votes, and Republicans tend to vote in person as instructed by Trump. That was (and still is) part of his scheme to insist that vote counting stop while Republicans are ahead. So if a race is still undecided on election night, that's a good sign the democrat will end up winning.


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Pero, apologies. I just read an article stating that indeed the AZ count is not over and I have noticed a change in the numbers for AZ this morning from yesterday.

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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
You really need to keep in mind that a lot of late-counted votes in some states are mail-in votes, and Republicans tend to vote in person as instructed by Trump. That was (and still is) part of his scheme to insist that vote counting stop while Republicans are ahead. So if a race is still undecided on election night, that's a good sign the democrat will end up winning.
You appear to be correct PIA;

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Who predicted a red wave Rick? I know of nobody outside of some dumb Republicans. I certainly didn’t and said so here. You have my forecasts, a good number of them. Most of the pundits, prognosticators, most pollsters were showing the senate as 50-50 chance for control with 6 states in the tossup column, PA, GA, AZ, NV, WI, NC. As for the house these same folks placed 25 seats in the tossup column with another 30 or so in either the lean Democratic or lean Republican columns. All at risk and all switchable, all that could go either way. There was no red wave forecasted. But that doesn’t make good headlines when the Democrats did very good, in my opinion excellent this midterm. The Democrats beat history, the historical standards, not only beat but trounced history and let history standing by the road side regardless of the final margin in the house of who controls the senate.

Historical average for the party in power with a president hovering around 40% is 48.5 house seats lost, 6 senate seats lost and 4.25 governors. The Democrats will probably lose around 15 house seats, which is exactly what me and Greger had been saying all along. The senate, most of the year I had the Democrats gaining one, then settled on a 50-50 split with the Dems gaining PA and the Reps NV. NV is still up for grabs as is Georgia. Arizona hasn’t been called or determined officially yet.

You heard red wave from Republicans quite a lot. Those same republicans which spouted that the polls were wrong in 2016 when in fact they were right. Republicans who didn’t know their butt from a hole in the ground when it came to assessing or predicting an election. And for your own information Rick, the polls were correct once again for 2022.


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I actually caught sight of a reasonable and rational Republican, although I still think he only fooling himself if he thinks he's going to nudge the current direction of the larger party in Congress.

Sean Patrick Maloney was defeated by Republican Mike Lawler yesterday and this morning he spent a good five or six minutes on CNN (GASP!!) talking about his goals and the direction he'd like to see the party go in.
And he actually sounded reasonable. His wife is from Moldova, by the way, so he made it clear his support for Ukraine is 100 percent.

He's serving in the seat held at one time by Hillary...you know, that lady known for her buttery mails.


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Originally Posted by perotista
Who predicted a red wave Rick?
Every Republican, plus Real Clear Politics and 538.

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You’re totally wrong about 538. They rated the senate as a dead heat which it was and still is. They stated the Republicans likely would retake the house which they will. But no red wave. RCP, senate wise, they had 8 states in the tossup column, could go either way.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/elections-map.html

RCP did have the Republicans at 227 seats in the house to 174 Democratic with the rest as tossups. Still the definition of a wave election is the party out of power gaining 30 or more seats plus retaking control of the house. At 227 that a gain of 14 seats, below the wave election forecast. RCP was definitely bias toward the GOP this time around.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/house/elections-map.html

Republicans were going with their heart like you were stating the Democrats would retain control of both chambers.


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