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Sorry but you have no earthly idea how AP and Reuters works.
You're creating a strawman and it doesn't really matter what your OPINION of it is, because your opinion is centered on ignorance.

And in the next post (above) you continue to highlight how important it is for EU to bow to Putin so he doesn't hurt them. Weak sauce reason to sacrifice Ukraine's democracy and most certainly, Europe's long term security.

I already posted a map of the Iron Curtain further up the thread, and you think Europeans don't remember it.
Sauce getting weaker by the second, Chunk.

What are you planning to gish gallop to next?

Actually, I have an in-law that’s been a manager for one of the worlds largest subscription based legal information/publishing services providers. I know how subscription based services work, thanks.

No amount of your time doing grip work for a bureau (I’m guessing your bona fides for the business structures of information distribution) nullifies decades of misinformation and outright propaganda from our infotainment industry regardless of where they get their reporting and how it’s legally structured. I’m other words, blow it out yer ear.

I’ll see your Iron curtain and raise you an Austrian-Hungarian empire. No? How bout an Ottoman? I find it hilarious you’d bring up the Iron Curtain while living in an Imperial nation bent on hanging onto its messianic delusions of world domination. S’cuse me, full spectrum global domination. Anyhow, I can’t imagine the hysterics from your mindset if Russia installed weapons systems up to our borders and its President made speeches about toppling our government. I’m sure we’d handle it much different than Russia.

Yet another question goes unanswered by the ink squirter? Shucks what a suprise… guess we’ll just have to guess what the butchers bill is for Ukrainian KIA? Maybe rely on yellow cake news corp. Some ‘embedded’ reporting from a military base press briefing annex trailer, not so much from independant, front line reporters from either side of the line?



Anyhow, your semantic bloviations aside, you can mischaracterize another sanctions boondoggle as ‘bowing to Putin’ if it helps you. Doesn’t matter what you think or feel about it. Only time will tell how effective this G7 scheme will play out. What’s this one now, the 9th? Wasn’t the first ‘Mother of all Sanctions’ suppose to bring Russia to its knees? Make the Russian economy scream and create a mass uprising or some such nonsense? So far, sanctions have been a self own but as long as it doesn’t materially impact the people concocting them, I guess theirs no downside to passing more. So far anyways.

It’s funny how failure and incompetence never seem to have a price for some classes, harsh consequences for others. Europe does have a class culture for peasant revolts though so it may get bumpy in the next few months. I hope it gets covered by a NFP subscription based wire service though… I’d hate to rely on think tanks for my ‘news’.

Yeah we know, "some guy on the internet" who puts out videos is better.
PS: I'm a film editor, not a grip.
The Iron Curtain was very real and had very real consequences for Europe.
Pity you ignore that and dodge and deflect to evil America's misadventures instead.
We were talking about Europe, or did you forget?

Nice gish gallop though, you did not disappoint.

Ahh..
Film editing. Definitely know propaganda then.
S’funny. I thought you were a grip guy too. As I said, just guessing.

No answer to my question then? More squirt squirt instead?

Waidaminnut…

I wasted a number of seconds on your IMBD (not always accurate, I know). Says you were a grip guy…?!

Jeffery J. Haas. He is an editor, camera operator and actor, known for Can It Be Love (1992) and The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals (1989)

Are you saying you weren’t a grip guy or you are currently doing editing? Most editors I knew always liked pictures of themselves sitting at flat bed Steenbecks, later replaced with sitting in front of Avid editing suits. I did know a guy that still used a movieola but he was an outlier. A pretty good editor, too.

I do like how old guys like yourself will crap on young freelancers breaking in by doing important work, going to dangerous parts of the world reporting from the front lines. I’d be interested in your work reporting from war zones, if any, and why it was better than, say, Patrick Lancaster’s work?

Or maybe you prefer ‘news’ reporting of think tank fairy tales? Dunno, don’t care.

‘ Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announced he is seeking to ban all religions with ties to Russia. He claims the move is needed to "guarantee spiritual independence to Ukraine."

This law will target millions of Ukrainians who identify as Russian Orthodox.’

Zelensky Looks To Ban Christian Denomination With Ties To Moscow

Well shucks.. I mean why not. Somebody said if you just replaced the word ‘Russian’ with ‘Jew’ you pretty much have the same thing as, well, you know.. I think there’s a good point there. Banning language and religion, political parties, free press. It’s what all liberty loving freedom yearning governments are known for.

‘ Since the US-backed Maidan coup in 2014, establishment media have either minimized the far-right ideology that guides many Ukrainian nationalist detachments or ignored it completely.

Anti-war outlets, including FAIR (1/28/22, 3/22/22), have repeatedly highlighted this dynamic—particularly regarding corporate media’s lionization of the Azov battalion, once widely recognized by Western media as a fascist militia, now sold to the public as a reformed far-right group that gallantly defends the sovereignty of a democratic Ukraine …

… The lesser-known Bratstvo battalion, within which the Times embedded its reporters, is driven by several far-right currents—none of which are mentioned in the article…

.. Korchynsky, who now fights in Bratstvo’s paramilitary wing, is a Holocaust denier who falsely blamed Jews for the 1932–33 famine in Ukraine, and peddled the lie that “120,000 Jews fought in the Wehrmacht.” He has stated that he sees Bratstvo as a “Christian Taliban” (Intercept, 3/18/15).”

NYT Has Found New Neo-Nazi Troops to Lionize in Ukraine

FAIR is right, the NYT should indeed stop referring to deranged detachments of neo-nazi troops as heroes and they should indeed clearly identify them. They should also take steps to determine what total percentage of Ukraine's troops identify with neo-nazi ideology.

Perhaps you could also identify how any of that justifies the broad-brush strawman that you're trying to build...the one that claims that Ukraine is a neo-nazi nation filled to the brim with neo-nazi people.

You do realize that we here in the U.S. can handily identify a percentage of our own troops who would match the fringe ideology of these groups in Ukraine, and exceed their numbers by several orders of magnitude, yes?

I think I mentioned that before.

Perhaps you could point to your claim that ‘ the one that claims that Ukraine is a neo-nazi nation filled to the brim with neo-nazi people.’

Buy you can’t really. This is old ground your trodding on. I never made the claim and you continue to do you.

This subject has been covered by serious scholars and diplomats, which I have linked to. It is a problem, especially politically, and one which the US has supported.

Last I knew, our military does not include natal lions of fascist paramilitaries in its force composition. Please correct me if I’m wrong here. What would be the equivalent to the Ukraine fascist force structures.

I think you minimizing a very real problem which will have the potential to spill into its neighboring states as conditions worsen for Ukraine.

But again, makes no difference how we feel about it. Material conditions will present themselves, as always, it’s the media’s job to control the narrative surrounding those conditions.

Minimizing, obfuscation and omission are popular tools for this. Why one could call it propaganda even.

Then you don't know.
Our armed forces are crawling with fascists, neo-nazis, klanners, etc, and so are our law enforcement.
And the fact that you claim ignorance of this is telling.