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The plan is for moderate Republicans and Dems to vote together and bypass the MAGAts all together. smile

The problem that I have with Boehner is that I don't remember him being bi-partisan. I'm pretty sure that he wasn't at the time, but Republican revisionist memory say that he was - so they're trotting him out again is the rumor.


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If McCarthy takes over, I predict that the House will do a lot of crazy things that will affect nobody since their bills will not pass the Senate nor Biden's veto. The only bills that could get through to become law will be the essential things (IE. not crazy). They will investigate Hunter a dozen times (2023 version of Benghazi), subpoena a lot of people, impeach Biden a few times, and recommend prosecution by the DOJ of several Democrats which DOJ will ignore as nonsense. All this stuff will harm their chances in 2024 with Independents. Extortion over the debt limit can only hurt them even worse.

It will be interesting to see if a few of the more MAGA ones get booted out of office by the 14th Amendment. That might have the effect of making the House more moderate overall. Since reps are replaced by special elections, Democrats could actually win their seats if they are obnoxious enough.


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According to CNN, the House elections are final. 222 Republicans vs 213 Democrats. The exact reversal of the previous house when it was 222 Democrats to 213 Republicans. That’s a net gain of 9 seats for the GOP. Again, making Greger the one who came the closest when he predicted 11 seat gain for the GOP.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/r...key-races=false&filter-flipped=false

The question is does CNN have their numbers right? CNN has the Republicans flipping or gaining 19 previously held Democratic seats while the Democrats gained or flipped, switched 6 previously held Republican seats. That’s a net gain of 13 for the Republicans. 213 previously held Republican seats plus 13 net gain, (19-6) equals 226 not 222. Something to contemplate when the numbers don’t add up.


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The plan to install a non-member of Congress as Speaker continues to have legs. Politico is reporting that retiring Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI) is the current rumored name. The goal is to deny Kevin McCarthy Speakership and the MAGAts chairman positions on the House committees.

I've never heard of Fred Upton, so I did a little googling.

Turns out, Upton, first elected in 1986, is one of the longest-tenured Republicans in the House. He previously chaired the House Energy and Commerce Committee and garnered a reputation for working with members across the aisle.

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Aren't the rules closest without going over? smile


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That Texas resident never really had a chance to become a GA Senator. Oh well... smile


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The only disappointing 2022 midterm election me is that Tim Ryan lost his race.

It says a lot that the GOP spent tens of millions trying to elect a carpetbagging CTE victim in Georgia - and the GOP has no shame in doing so. Because those are the values of today’s GOP.

The next task is for the moderate GOP and Dems to unite in electing a bipartisan Speaker.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
The only disappointing 2022 midterm election me is that Tim Ryan lost his race.

It says a lot that the GOP spent tens of millions trying to elect a carpetbagging CTE victim in Georgia - and the GOP has no shame in doing so. Because those are the values of today’s GOP.

The next task is for the moderate GOP and Dems to unite in electing a bipartisan Speaker.

Heh, define "bipartisan", and I ask because I can't parse that term when looking at the field of today's Republicans in Congress, not because I doubt your internal definition of the term.
I'm saying "rotsa ruck" because it's slim pickings.

Is Joe Manchin a "moderate" or is MTG?

Yes, I do realize that anyone can be made Speaker, literally ANYONE.


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I did define moderate here:

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The plan to install a non-member of Congress as Speaker continues to have legs. Politico is reporting that retiring Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI) is the current rumored name. The goal is to deny Kevin McCarthy Speakership and the MAGAts chairman positions on the House committees.

I've never heard of Fred Upton, so I did a little googling.

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I like this and I could live with this. smile


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I don't consider Munchin or Sinema moderate. I consider them hostiles. mad


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