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You really are in a lather. I hope you realize I didn’t negotiate Minsk. You seem to have answered your own question. Glad you settled that for yourself.

Say Jeff, tell us exactly how much fascism you find acceptable in your government.

Hah! Trick question. It’s becoming clearer your fascist curious. It’s ok. No one’s here to judge. Consider this thread safe space. When was the first time you defended fascism? We’re here to listen.

But you support it as being preferable to Ukraine owning its own self determination without interference from Russia or any other neighboring state. Otherwise you wouldn't use it to justify your deficient moral position on Russia's attacks on Ukraine.


Gish galloping, fail less.

‘It was also ideologically-driven, she added, since these far right groups viewed the fight against Russia as a fight against communism, clinging to World War II historical narratives, and associating modern-day Russia and its president, Vladimir V. Putin, with the former Soviet Union.

Far right groups in Europe plan to confront Russian firces

Gee… who else continues to conflate current day Russia and its security concerns with the former Soviet Union?

Odd…

Oh Jeff, your so precious with all your ‘self determination’ framing. You really do a good job possuming as a liberal.

You are going to have a harder time continuing to drum up support for Putin's war than Europeans are going to have staying warm, I'm afraid.

Russian people's support of the war is tanking quickly.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/12/04/ukraine-russia-live-updates/10832835002/

Wave after wave of penal conscripts and untrained draftees isn't going to make that support magically reappear and Russia is going to run out of room in its prisons once waves and waves of protesters get warehoused for long stretches.
Eventually they will begin to start draining their workforce of essential laborers.

Shoving the draft age up to sixty-five is sheer desperation.
Go try selling Putin's view in the open, not in this "safe space".

I believe the correct epithet is "shitlib", isn't that right?
But you just called me a fascist a moment ago. Can't make up your mind?

You're all over the road these days, one minute you're labeling someone a fascist because they don't believe your claim that the entire Ukraine military are nazis, next minute you're yelling the equivalent of "FAKE NEWS!" because two or three nonprofits aren't following your favorite apologist's YouTube videos.

UPDATE: OMG OMG I think I just made the connection.
Calling a shitlib a fascist is almost 98% of the way over to Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism!"

You're riding that Horseshoe Theory right to the edge, aintcha?

Not me, they're not communists, and someone should seek out this little group of UKR neo-nazis and let them know...Russia is fascist now. They sure as hell aren't communist!

Butcha know what? That does not change Putin's intent to recreate an Iron Curtain because, as it turns out, it would be every bit as advantageous to his reconstructed Imperial Russian Empire as it was for the Soviet Union.

For Pooty, whether or not it's commie or fashy doesn't matter, an Iron Curtain to bolster Russian encroachment into Europe is what matters.

It's not the least bit odd, it's Putin's revenge against the West.
Authoritarianism Left or Right, just add some Patriarch Kiril holy water and a dash of Dugin's sweat if you want Righty authoritarianism or your dough won't rise in the oven.

By the way, please clarify whether East Germany and other Soviet Bloc states voluntarily became part of the Soviet Empire. Lenin himself stated that internal Soviet nations were colonies.

Mao stated that Soviet Russia practiced Imperialism underneath a communist facade.*

Putin has sworn to avenge the fall of the Berlin Wall, which he witnessed directly as a young KGB station officer in East Germany, and the resulting collapse of the USSR, of which he is quoted as saying:

"Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart.
Anyone who wants it restored has no brains."

--And so here we are, witnessing the attempted reconstruction of the Imperial Russian Empire instead.
That of course would once again include all those vassal states just as before, including a newly vanquished Ukraine where the Russians are once again large and in charge.

*Hat tip to "Infinite Chaos" over at DP for the Mao reference!

By the way, do you view Hungary as Russia's stalking horse in NATO?

I’ll leave it to you to answer your own questions.

How’s bout some gambling?

We both give our predictions on how this will end. Whichever’s prediction comes closest stays. Whoever’s the furthest leaves. Permanently.

You game?